NWS SRRS PRODUCTS FOR: 2003121200 to 2003121600 FXUS61 KALY 120240 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 940 PM EST THU DEC 11 2003 WORKZONES OUT. .DISC...STILL MOPPING UP AFTER OUR MINOR FLOOD EVENT. BIGGEST PROBLEMS WERE ON THE HOUSATONIC AND SCHOHARIE BASINS...WERE FLWS STILL EXIST. WE ARE LEFT WITH A NORTH SOUTH BAND OF RAIN SHOWERS...MIXING WITH SNOW SHOWERS...TO THE EAST OF ALBANY...WHICH IS THANKFULLY SLOWLY FALLING APART. WE CAN ENJOY A BRIEF BREAK IN THE ACTION BEFORE THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW FLIES. KTYX RADAR INDICATES SOME SNOW PLUMES BEGINNING TO FORM OFF LAKE ONTARIO. LOOKS AS IF BANDS SHOULD MAKE IT INTO HERKIMER AND HAMILTON COUNTIES LATER TONIGHT...AND EVENTUALLY DOWN THE MOHAWK VALLEY. THE WIND ENVIRONMENT IS SHEARED AND THE AREA IS UNDERGOING STRONG DOWNWARD MOTION AT THE MOMENT. BOTH THE SHEAR AND DOWNWARD MOTION SHOULD WEAKEN WITH TIME. WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A SIGNIFICANT LAKE EVENT. WILL LEAVE THE WIND ADVISORY AS IS. HAD A REPORT UP TO 44 KTS AT KALB AND 49KTS ALONG THE ELEVATED TERRAIN IN GLEN, MONTGOMERY COUNTY. GOOD PRESSURE FALLS AND A STEEP PRESSURE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT...THEN SLOWLY RELAX. UPDATE TO CLEAN UP WORDING TO REFLECT CURRENT TRENDS. TEMPS AND WIND FIELDS LOOK GOOD. NO CHANGES TO LATER PERIODS. EAGERLY AWAITING NEW DATA TO SEE IF OUR SECOND SNOWSTORM IS STILL AS MUCH AS A THREAT BY LATE SUNDAY. .AVIATION DISCUSSION...AN AWW WAS ISSUED EARLIER FOR KALB FOR 40 KT WIND GUSTS. MIGHT HAVE TO REISSUE IT BY 11 PM. THE WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM...ESPECIALLY AT ALBANY FOR THE OVERNIGHT. THEY WILL GRADUALLY WEAKEN TOMORROW AND REMAIN MAINLY WNW. ONCE WE GET ANY REMAINING LOW CLOUDS OUT OF HERE BY MIDNIGHT...VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD PREVAIL THROUGH TOMORROW...DESPITE OCCASIONAL CEILINGS (AROUND 3500 FEET) FORECASTED AT BOTH KALB AND KGFL ON FRIDAY. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION...SEE ALBFLWALY FOR OUR FLOODING PROBLEMS. NO MORE SIGNIFICANT RAIN IS FORECAST TONIGHT. DRY AND WINDY TOMORROW...SO THE RUNOFF (WHAT IS LEFT OF THE SNOW MELT) WILL SLOW DOWN. DRY AND COLD FOR SATURDAY. THE NEXT STORM LOOKS TO BE IN THE FORM OF FROZEN PRECIPITATION FOR US AND SHOULD POSE NO IMMEDIATE PROBLEMS. .ALY...A WIND ADVISORY THROUGH 500 AM FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY WARNING AREA. _____________________________________________________________________ ************PREVIOUS FORECAST DISCUSSION (AFD)********************* .DISCUSSION...FFA EXPIRED. SEVERAL HYDRO PROBLEMS LINGER. ISSUED WIND ADVISORY. ISOLATED 45-50 MPH BEING REPORTED AND MORE WIDESPREAD 40-50 MPH WIND GUSTS OBSERVED TO SOUTH. 925 MB WIND 50 KT AT KALY. CORE OF STRONG H8 WINDS WORKING NORTHWARD TOWARD AREA. PREV AFD. ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN FOR THE NEXT 7 DAYS (AND LONGER IF WE ARE TO PLACE CREDENCE IN LONG RANGE GFS). FIRST STORM TO AFFECT THE AREA MOVING THROUGH SOUTHWEST NEW ENGLAND. AS IT PULLS AWAY HEAVY RAIN WILL CONTINUE TO QUICKLY DIMINISH. BY NOON DRY SLOT ALREADY PUSHING INTO SOUTH PORTION OF REGION. RATHER COLD AIR GRADUALLY FILTERS IN DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS. LEFTOVER RAIN MAY END AS A LITTLE SNOW BUT MOISTURE PULLING OUT QUICKLY SO NO SIGNIFICANT SNOW ACCUMULATION. FLOOD WATCH WILL CONTINUE UNTIL 600 PM AND EXTENSION NOT ANTICIPATED. STRONG WEST TO NORTHWEST FLOW IN WAKE OF STORM. WIND GUSTS IN ZFP TO 40 MPH. MODEL SOUNDINGS SUGGEST EVEN STRONGER WINDS POSSIBLE BUT AT THIS TIME BASED ON COLLABORATION GRIDS WON'T ISSUE WIND ADVISORY. WORK OF GRADIENT PAST BY THURSDAY MID MORNING. ON FRIDAY UPPER SHORT WAVE PASSES THROUGH AND SHOULD HELP SUPPORT LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS. INVERSION QUICKLY LOWERS TONIGHT TO NEAR 5K FT. IT ONLY RISES SLIGHTLY FRIDAY. THAT SHOULD PRECLUDE HEAVY AMOUNTS BUT WILL INCLUDE SMALL ACCUMULATIONS AND HIGHER POPS IN NORTHERN CATSKILLS AND FAR WESTERN MOHAWK VALLEY. SYSTEM #2 SETTING UP FOR SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY AND ITS ANOTHER POTENTIALLY POTENT ONE. THE GFS HAS BEEN RELATIVELY CONSISTENT WITH THIS SYSTEM IN TERMS OF INTENSITY AND TIMING. PRECIPITATION TYPE AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. 06Z ALB MODEL SOUNDINGS SHOWED WARM LAYER ABOUT 8 K FT INDICATING SNOW WILL CHANGE TO SLEET FOR A DECENT PART OF THE STORM. 12Z SOUNDINGS SIMILAR. PARTIAL THICKNESSES SUPPORT A CHANGE TO JUST RAIN SOUTHEAST PORTION. VERY TIGHT THERMAL GRADIENT SO A LOT OF ROOM FOR ERROR. WILL BE GENERAL AT THIS TIME WITH SNOW NORTHWEST...SNOW AND SLEET CENTRAL...AND SNOW SLEET AND RAIN SOUTHEAST. NO OUTLOOK WILL BE ISSUED AT THIS TIME. 84 HR ETA LOOKS ON WARM SIDE. SYSTEM #3: GFS NOT REAL CONSISTENT WITH TIMING AND TRACK. 06Z FASTER AND COLDER THAN 00Z OR 12Z. WILL EMPHASIZE PRECIP WED NIGHT AND THURSDAY. .AVIATION DISCUSSION...CURRENTLY HAVE MVFR TO IFR ACROSS AREA. RAIN MOVING NORTHWARD...DRY SLOT HAS MOVED INTO THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA. WINDS WILL SHIFT TO THE W-WNW MID TO LATE AFTERNOON THEN CONDITIONS WILL IMPROVE TO MVFR TO VFR THIS EVENING WHEN MIXING OCCURS. COLD AIR RUSHES IN ON THE WESTERLY FLOW OVERNIGHT. EXPECT WINDS GUSTS TO 25 TO 35 KT AT TAFS SITES WITH HIGHER GUSTS ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN TONIGHT WITH WINDS BEGIN TO DIE DOWN FRIDAY MORNING. SHORT WAVE WILL MOVE ACROSS NORTHEAST FRIDAY WHICH WILL KEEP CIGS ACROSS MUCH OF AREA (CENTRAL AND NORTHERN PORTIONS). .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION... HEAVY RAIN ABOUT OVER ALTHOUGH SOME CREEKS/RIVERS STILL RISING. LOCAL PROBLEMS HANDLED IN STATEMENTS TO THIS POINT. FLOOD WATCH WILL RUN UNTIL 6 PM. BOICEVILLE 2.30 HEAVIEST WE'VE SEEN SO FAR. RIVERS AND STREAMS SHOULD QUICKLY STABILIZE OVERNIGHT WITH END OF SIGNIFICANT PRECIPITATION AND COLDER WEATHER. .ALY...WIND ADVISORY TONIGHT ALL ZONES. $$ FXUS61 KALY 120927 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 425 AM EST FRI DEC 12 2003 .DISC...LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WILL PRODUCE SOME MINOR ACCUMULATIONS OVER THE MOHAWK VALLEY AND EASTERN CATSKILLS TODAY. OTHERWISE NORTHWEST FLOW WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE TODAY AND TONIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN. THE HIGH WILL KEEP WEATHER DRY OVER THE REGION SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT...THEN THE NEXT STRONG SYSTEM WILL TAKE A RUN AT US SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. UNLIKE LAST WEEKENDS EVENT WHERE THE MAIN PROBLEM 3 DAYS OUT WAS THE FLIP-FLOPPING OF THE MODELS ON WHETHER SNOW WOULD OR WOULD NOT MAKE IT INTO THE FORECAST AREA...THE MAIN PROBLEM THIS TIME WILL BE HOW MUCH AND HOW FAR NORTH MIXED PCPN OCCURS WITH THIS SYSTEM. CURRENT MODEL TRENDS SHOW THE TRACK OF THE LOW SHIFTING WESTWARD WITH EACH RUN...WITH MILDER AIR THUS ABLE TO MAKE IT FURTHER NORTH. THIS WESTWARD SHIFT MAKES SENSE SINCE THE UPPER LEVEL TROF REMAINS WELL WEST OF WHERE THE MODELS INDICATE SURFACE LOW DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR. EVEN THOUGH MODELS SHOW A WARMING TREND WITH EACH RUN...LOW LEVELS REMAIN QUITE COLD...SO AT THIS TIME EXPECT THE SNOW TO CHANGE TO SLEET AND FREEZING ACROSS SOUTHEAST PART OF AREA RATHER THAN RAIN. 06Z ETA HAS JUST COME IN AND IT CONTINUES THE WESTWARD SHIFT OF PREVIOUS RUNS. IT INDICATES MIXED PCPN COULD AFFECT THE ENTIRE FORECAST AREA...WITH RAIN POSSIBLE SOUTHEAST ZONES AT SOME POINT DURING THIS STORM. GRIDDED FORECASTS ARE BASED ON 00Z RUNS...AND HAVE NOT BEEN ADJUSTED FOR THE 06Z ETA RUN. WINTER STORM OUTLOOK WILL BE ISSUED FOR THIS EVENT. .AVIATION DISCUSSION... CURRENTLY CEILINGS HAVE RISEN TO VFR LEVELS IN ERN NY. EXPECT THAT TREND TO CONTINUE IN THE LATE MORNING THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. BRISK W/NW WINDS WILL CONTINUE. WILL LET THE AWW FOR KALB EXPIRE AT 09Z. GRADIENT WILL CONTINUE TO SLACKEN SLIGHTLY...SO EXPECTING GUSTS TO FALL BELOW 40KT CRITERIA AROUND THAT TIME. EXPECT 15 TO 25KT WINDS THIS AFTERNOON WITH SOME GUSTS IN THE 30 TO 35 KT RANGE. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS SHOULD BE CONFINED TO WRN ADIRONDACKS AND CENTRAL NY. CEILINGS IN THE EXTREME WRN PORTION OF THE CWA MAY DROP BRIEFLY DOWN TO MVFR LEVELS IN THE AFTERNOON. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION...FLOODING FROM YESTERDAYS RAIN IS EASING. SEE LATEST ALBFLSALY STATEMENTS FOR LATEST INFORMATION. .ALY...FLOOD WARNINGS CONTINUE FOR PORTIONS OF THE SCHOHARIE CREEK HOUSATONIC RIVER. MAGLARAS $$ FXUS61 KALY 121740 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 1238 PM EST FRI DEC 12 2003 LATE MORNING UPDATE TO REFLECT OBSERVED CLOUD COVER AND LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS. TEMPS AND WINDS ON TRACK. EXPECT TO ISSUE WINTER STORM WATCH WITH AFTERNOON PACKAGE. $$ SND FXUS61 KALY 122026 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 325 PM EST FRI DEC 12 2003 .DISC...LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS CONTINUE OVER WESTERN MOHAWK VALLEY AND CATSKILLS. KSYR BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOW MODERATE INSTABILITY THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING. FETCH ALSO FAVORABLE UNTIL LATE MORNING TOMORROW THEN BECOMES MORE NORTHWARD. WILL KEEP CHC-LKLY POPS FOR CURRENT SNOW AREAS THROUGH TOMORROW MORNING. THINGS QUIET DOWN TOMORROW AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN OVER AREA. MODELS SHOWING IDEAL RADIATIONAL CONDITIONS FOR SATURDAY NIGHT BEFORE NEXT STORM MOVES IN. LOOKING LIKE CLASSIC CLEAR ALL NIGHT...CLOUD UP AT SUNRISE...LOCK COLD AIR IN BEFORE STORM SCENARIO. ETA/AVN MOVE DEEP LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM UP EAST COAST SUN/MON. THIS STORM PROGGED TO BE DEEPER...STRONGER AND WETTER THAN LAST WEEKENDS STORM. HOWEVER...MODELS WANT TO WRAP WARM AIR INTO SOUTHEAST PART OF MY CWA WHICH WOULD CAUSE A CHANGEOVER TO RAIN OR MIX ACROSS SOUTHEAST. MODELS PREDICT WARNING CRITERIA SNOWS BEFORE CHANGEOVER SO WINTER STORM WATCH ISSUED FOR ALL AREAS SUN/NOON THROUGH MON/NOON. NORTHWESTERN AREAS PROGGED TO SEE ALL SNOW. POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR ANOTHER BLOCKBUSTER. QUIET TUESDAY...WET AGAIN WED/THU...WITH POSSIBLE FLOODING PROBLEMS AGAIN IF WE DO HAVE DEEP SNOW COVER. DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN... .AVIATION DISCUSSION...PRESSURE RISES CONTINUE ACROSS REGION TONIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN AT SURFACE. STILL HAVE SHORT WAVE/TROF TO SWING THROUGH NORTH COUNTRY OVERNIGHT. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS PERSISTENT ACROSS CENTRAL MOHAWK AND SCHOHARIE VALLEYS...AND NORTHERN CATSKILLS AND WILL DO SO INTO THE OVERNIGHT. CONDITIONS IN AND NEAR THE BANDS ARE MVFR TO LOCALLY IFR. OTHERWISE...VFR CONDITIONS PREVAIL. RIDGING BUILDS IN AT ALL LEVELS SATURDAY. HIGH LEVELS CLOUDS WILL BE ADVANCING NORTHWARD AHEAD OF NEXT SYSTEM DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS THEN LOWERING SATURDAY NIGHT. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION...FLOODING FROM YESTERDAYS RAIN ABOUT DONE. HIGH WATER AROUND UTICA NY ALONG MOHAWK AND IN LOWER HOUSATONIC IN CT. SMALL STREAMS WILL RECEDE NEXT 24-36 HOURS. RISES CONTINUE ON LOWER MAIN STEM RIVERS AS YESTERDAYS RAIN MAKES ITS WAY DOWNSTREAM. .ALY...WINTER STORM WATCH ENTIRE CWA. $$ SND FXUS61 KALY 130253 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 951 PM EST FRI DEC 12 2003 DISC...LATEST RADAR PIC SHOWING DECENT BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW JUST SOUTH OF THE MOHAWK VALLEY. WILL UPDATE GRIDS TO REFLECT THIS. PREV AFD .DISC...LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS CONTINUE OVER WESTERN MOHAWK VALLEY AND CATSKILLS. KSYR BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOW MODERATE INSTABILITY THROUGH SATURDAY MORNING. FETCH ALSO FAVORABLE UNTIL LATE MORNING TOMORROW THEN BECOMES MORE NORTHWARD. WILL KEEP CHC-LKLY POPS FOR CURRENT SNOW AREAS THROUGH TOMORROW MORNING. THINGS QUIET DOWN TOMORROW AFTERNOON THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN OVER AREA. MODELS SHOWING IDEAL RADIATIONAL CONDITIONS FOR SATURDAY NIGHT BEFORE NEXT STORM MOVES IN. LOOKING LIKE CLASSIC CLEAR ALL NIGHT...CLOUD UP AT SUNRISE...LOCK COLD AIR IN BEFORE STORM SCENARIO. ETA/AVN MOVE DEEP LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM UP EAST COAST SUN/MON. THIS STORM PROGGED TO BE DEEPER...STRONGER AND WETTER THAN LAST WEEKENDS STORM. HOWEVER...MODELS WANT TO WRAP WARM AIR INTO SOUTHEAST PART OF MY CWA WHICH WOULD CAUSE A CHANGEOVER TO RAIN OR MIX ACROSS SOUTHEAST. MODELS PREDICT WARNING CRITERIA SNOWS BEFORE CHANGEOVER SO WINTER STORM WATCH ISSUED FOR ALL AREAS SUN/NOON THROUGH MON/NOON. NORTHWESTERN AREAS PROGGED TO SEE ALL SNOW. POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR ANOTHER BLOCKBUSTER. QUIET TUESDAY...WET AGAIN WED/THU...WITH POSSIBLE FLOODING PROBLEMS AGAIN IF WE DO HAVE DEEP SNOW COVER. DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN... .AVIATION DISCUSSION...PRESSURE RISES CONTINUE ACROSS REGION TONIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN AT SURFACE. STILL HAVE SHORT WAVE/TROF TO SWING THROUGH NORTH COUNTRY OVERNIGHT. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS PERSISTENT ACROSS CENTRAL MOHAWK AND SCHOHARIE VALLEYS...AND NORTHERN CATSKILLS AND WILL DO SO INTO THE OVERNIGHT. CONDITIONS IN AND NEAR THE BANDS ARE MVFR TO LOCALLY IFR. OTHERWISE...VFR CONDITIONS PREVAIL. RIDGING BUILDS IN AT ALL LEVELS SATURDAY. HIGH LEVELS CLOUDS WILL BE ADVANCING NORTHWARD AHEAD OF NEXT SYSTEM DURING THE AFTERNOON HOURS THEN LOWERING SATURDAY NIGHT. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION...FLOODING FROM YESTERDAYS RAIN ABOUT DONE. HIGH WATER AROUND UTICA NY ALONG MOHAWK AND IN LOWER HOUSATONIC IN CT. SMALL STREAMS WILL RECEDE NEXT 24-36 HOURS. RISES CONTINUE ON LOWER MAIN STEM RIVERS AS YESTERDAYS RAIN MAKES ITS WAY DOWNSTREAM. .ALY...WINTER STORM WATCH ENTIRE CWA. $$ FXUS61 KALY 130541 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 1241 AM EST SAT DEC 13 2003 DISCUSSION... THE LATEST RUN OF THE MODELS SUGGEST THAT AN ANTICYCLONE OVER THE GREAT LAKES FRIDAY EVENING WILL BE BUILDING INTO THE NORTHEASTERN UNITED STATES LATE TODAY AND TONIGHT. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE COUNTY WARNING AREA SHOULD BE DISSIPATING BY DAYBREAK. THE AIR MASS MOVING OVER THE REGION IS MODERATELY COLD, AND MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES WILL BE BELOW FREEZING IN MOST OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. THE LATEST GUIDANCE FROM THE MODELS SUGGESTS OVER THE BULK OF THE REGION THAT THE HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE MID AND UPPER 20S. THAT MATCHES FRIDAY'S ZONE FORECAST VERY WELL, AND NOT CHANGES ARE ANTICIPATED. THE WIND WILL BE FROM THE NORTHWEST TODAY AT 10 TO 15 MILES AN HOUR. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BE CRESTING OVER THE REGION TONIGHT. EVEN SO HIGH-LEVEL MOISTURE IS FORECAST TO MOVE INTO THE REGION IN ADVANCE OF THE DEVELOPING STORM TO THE SOUTH. SO, CIRRUS MAY THICKEN ENOUGH TO PREVENT TEMPERATURES FROM REACHING THEIR LOWEST POTENTIAL VALUES. THE ETA MODEL GUIDANCE IS LOWEST, AND HAS SOME BELOW ZERO READINGS FORECAST IN SOUTHERN VERMONT. IT MAY BE PRUDENT TO LOWER THE VALUES IN FRIDAY'S ZONES SLIGHTLY, ALTHOUGH THE CAVEAT IS THE THICKENING CIRRUS AND THE FACT THAT SNOW COVER TOOK A BEATING IN THE LAST STORM. WE'LL PROBABLY STAY CLOSE TO THE VALUES THAT WERE FORECAST IN FRIDAY'S ZONES. A LIGHT AND VARIABLE SURFACE WIND IS ANTICIPATED TONIGHT. ON SUNDAY, THE CYCLONE APPROACHING THE AREA IS FORECAST TO TRACK FROM THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES INTO THE MID ATLANTIC REGION. ON THE LATEST RUN, THE NESTED GRID MODEL IS SLOWER THAN OTHER MODELS. IT BRINGS THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER ONLY AS FAR NORTH AS NORTH CAROLINA BY SUNDAY EVENING. THE ETA AND MESOSCALE ETA MODELS BRING THE LOW FURTHEST NORTH, THE THE VICINITY OF SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY AT THIS TIME. THE CANADIAN MODELS AND THE AVIATION ARE NOT QUITE AS FAR NORTH AS THE ETA, BUT FURTHER NORTH THAN THE NESTED GRID. THE NESTED GRID HAS VERY LITTLE PRECIPITATION FORECAST OVER ALBANY'S COUNTY WARNING AREA BY SUNDAY EVENING. THE ETA, CANADIAN MODELS, AND AVIATION ARE SUGGESTING AT LEAST HALF AN INCH IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA, WITH ETA HAVING THE MOST PRECIPITATION, ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH IN THE SOUTH. THE ETA MODELS ARE A BIT WARMER THAN THE OTHER MODELS INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. THE MESOSCALE MODEL ETA FORECAST SOUNDINGS WERE EXAMINED, AND THIS MODEL, WHICH AS MENTIONED WAS WARMEST, HAD A THIN LAYER OF ABOVE FREEZING AIR NEAR 5 OR 6 THOUSAND FEET SUNDAY EVENING IN THE CAPITAL DISTRICT. THE WARM LAYER WAS CONSIDERABLY DEEPER AND THICKER AT POUGHKEEPSIE, BUT WAS ABSENT THE THE WEST AND NORTH OF ALBANY. THIS PROFILE SUGGESTS THAT THE STORM PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY TO BE ENTIRELY SNOW NORTH AND WEST OF ALBANY, WITH MIXED PRECIPITATION LIKELY TO THE SOUTH. AS MENTIONED, THE ETA WAS WARMEST, MODEL CONSENSUS WOULD SUGGEST ALL SNOW IN THE CAPITAL DISTRICT. WITH THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER CUTTING SOUTH AND EAST OF THE REGION, THE SURFACE WIND WILL BE NORTHEAST OR NORTH, AND IT IS UNLIKELY THAT THE SURFACE TEMPERATURE WILL GET ABOVE FREEZING THROUGH MONDAY MORNING ANYWHERE IN THE AREA. SO LIQUID RAIN IS NOT EXPECTED. FREEZING RAIN COULD OCCUR FOR A TIME SUNDAY NIGHT IN THE LOWER TIER OF ZONES SHOULD THE MESOSCALE ETA MODEL BE ACCURATE. HOWEVER, WITH OTHER MODELS COLDER, IT IS BELIEVED THAT SLEET AND SNOW WILL BE THE PREDOMINANT FORM OF PRECIPITATION. THE AVIATION HAS A GOOD DUMP OF PRECIPITATION WITH THIS SYSTEM, AND THE STORM TOTAL LIQUID EQUIVALENT IS ON THE ORDER OF AN AVERAGE OF AN INCH AND THREE QUARTERS. THIS WOULD PRODUCE ABOUT 2 FEET OF SNOW IN AREAS THAT HAVE ONLY SNOW. THE LOCATIONS THAT HAVE MIXED PRECIPITATION WILL HAVE VARIABLE AMOUNTS, PROBABLY WITH THE LOWEST VALUES IN THE SOUTHEASTERN PERIPHERY. EVEN THE MESOSCALE ETA MODEL SUGGESTS THAT IT WILL BE COLD ENOUGH ON SUNDAY, FOR ABOUT 7 OR 8 INCHES TO ACCUMULATE IN THE SOUTHEAST THROUGH EARLY SUNDAY EVENING. THUS, ON SNOW TOTALS ALONE, A WINTER STORM WARNING WOULD VERIFY. A WINTER STORM WATCH IS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT, AND LITTLE WOULD BE GAINED FROM GOING TO A WARNING AT THIS POINT. WE BELIEVE IT IS PRUDENT TO WAIT ANOTHER MODEL FORECAST RUN BEFORE ISSUING A WARNING. AT THIS POINT, IT IS BELIEVED THAT THE MAIN PROBLEM WILL BE THE AMOUNT AND DURATION OF ABOVE FREEZING AIR ALOFT, WHICH WOULD DETERMINE SNOW AMOUNTS. PERHAPS ANOTHER RUN OF THE MODELS WOULD HELP REFINE THIS PROBLEM. BASED ON THE LATEST GUIDANCE, WELL BRING SNOW FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST ACROSS THE COUNTY WARNING AREA SUNDAY, AND INDICATE SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 4 TO 8 INCHES OF SNOW POSSIBLE BY SUNDAY EVENING, IN THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA, WITH LESS SNOW TO THE NORTH. MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES SUNDAY WILL BE FORECAST IN THE 20S AS INDICATED IN FRIDAY'S ZONE. THE 32 FORECAST FOR POUGHKEEPSIE FROM THE AVIATION GUIDANCE LOOKS TOO HIGH AS THICK CLOUDINESS AND SNOW WITH A NORTHEAST SURFACE WIND IS LIKELY. ON SUNDAY NIGHT, SNOW, SLEET, AND A POSSIBLE PERIOD OF FREEZING RAIN WILL BE FORECAST SOUTHEAST OF ALBANY (FREEZING RAIN ONLY FOR THE LOWER TIER OF ZONES). SNOW WILL BE FORECAST TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT. THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES WILL BE MAINLY IN THE 20S, ALTHOUGH SOME READINGS IN THE TEENS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE ADIRONDACKS. THE MORE PROGRESSIVE ETA WINDS THE STORM DOWN RATHER QUICKLY, AND IT APPEARS THAT BASED ON THIS MODEL THERE WOULD BE LITTLE ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIER OF ZONES MONDAY. THE MODEL SOUNDINGS INDICATE COLD ADVECTION AFTER HOUR 6 UNIVERSAL COORDINATION TIME MONDAY IN THE SOUTH, AND THE DRIER AIR WORKS IN THROUGH THE MID AND UPPER LEVELS BY DAYBREAK MONDAY. OTHER MODEL FORECAST ARE INDICATING A SOMEWHAT SLOWER MOVEMENT, SO IT IS WINTER STORM WATCH WITH EXTENDS THROUGH MONDAY MORNING LOOKS FINE FOR THE MOMENT. MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES MONDAY SHOULD BE MAINLY IN THE 20S. A SURFACE AND UPPER-LEVEL RIDGE BUILDS IN FOR TUESDAY AND FRIDAY'S ZONES HAD INDICATED DRY WEATHER FOR TUESDAY. NO CHANGES ARE ANTICIPATED. ANOTHER CYCLONE-COMPLEX BEGINS TO AFFECT THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT. BOTH THE CANADIAN GLOBAL AND AVIATION BRING SOME MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION INTO AT LEAST THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. BOTH MODELS ARE SUGGESTING A STRONG SECONDARY LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE MID ATLANTIC COAST ON WEDNESDAY. FORECAST THICKNESS VALUES SUGGEST ANOTHER STORM WITH HEAVY MIXED-TYPE PRECIPITATION; POSSIBLY ALL SNOW IN THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. THE AVIATION AND THE CANADIAN ARE DEVELOPING THE SYSTEM MORE RAPIDLY THAN THE EUROPEAN, BUT THE LATTER DOES SHOW A STRONG SYSTEM BY THURSDAY MORNING. FRIDAY'S ZONE FORECAST LOOKS LIKE IT MAY BE IN ERROR FOR THE MIDWEEK PERIOD AS IT IS INDICATING ONLY RAIN. WE'LL PROBABLY MODIFY THAT BY MENTIONING SOME SNOW AS WELL. .AVIATION DISCUSSION...EARLY THIS MORNING, LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ACROSS CENTRAL MOHAWK AND SCHOHARIE VALLEYS, AND NORTHERN CATSKILLS WILL RESULT IN MVFR TO LOCALLY IFR CONDITIONS IN THE SNOW BANDS. OTHERWISE, VFR CONDITIONS PREVAIL. HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN TODAY WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH VFR CONDITIONS WHICH WILL HOLD THROUGH TONIGHT. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION...RIVERS ARE RUNNING HIGH BUT ARE BELOW FLOOD AND WILL CONTINUE TO RECEDE TODAY. WITH THE NEXT STORM LIKELY TO BRING MAINLY FROZEN OR FREEZING PRECIPITATION TYPES, NO ADDITIONAL RUNOFF IS EXPECTED FOR SEVERAL DAYS, SO NO FLOODING IS ANTICIPATED. .ALY...WINTER STORM WATCH ENTIRE CWA SUNDAY NOON THROUGH MONDAY NOON. HEMMERICH FXUS61 KALY 131936 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 235 PM EST SAT DEC 13 2003 DISCUSSION... MODELS IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH SYSTEM. 24-HOUR EVENT 18Z/SUN TO 18Z/MON. UPPER SYSTEM GOES NEGATIVE SUNDAY NIGHT WITH 850 LOW CUTTING OFF SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND 500 LATE SUNDAY NIGHT. LOW INTENSIFIES RAPIDLY SUNDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY AS IT CROSS LONG ISLAND SUNDAY NIGHT. GFS CONSIDERABLY DEEPER WITH SYSTEM THAN OTHER MODELS. DESPITE BEING SO STRONG GFS IS THE FASTEST WITH THE UPPER TROF BY 48 HOURS. GFS LOOKS BETTER INITIALLY WITH SYSTEM UNTIL ABOUT 42 HOURS WHEN IT BECOMES TOO STRONG THEN WEAKER STRENGTH OF ETA APPEARS BETTER LIFTING LOW ALONG NEW ENGLAND COAST. ETA A BIT WARMER THAN GFS. EVEN GFS INDICATES MIXING SHOULD OCCUR ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF FORECAST AREA. VERTICAL MOTION IS IMPRESSIVE AND QPF HIGH SO DYNAMICALLY COOLING WILL OCCUR SHOULD OVERCOME SOME OF THE WARMER. SNOW WILL OVERSPREAD REGION QUICKLY SUNDAY AM INTO EARLY AFTERNOON. PRECIPITATION BECOMES HEAVY BY EVENING THEN THROUGH MUCH OF SUNDAY NIGHT WITH STRONG VERTICAL MOTION AND WARM AIR ADVECTION. QPF AMOUNTS IMPRESSIVE GENERALLY 1 1/2 TO 2 INCHES. SNOW RATIO WILL BE LOWEST ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF FORECAST AREA WHERE WARMER AIR PENETRATES HOWEVER NOT ENOUGH TO LOWER SNOW AMOUNTS BELOW WARNING CRITERIA. WILL ISSUE WINTER STORM WARNING FOR ENTIRE COUNTY WARNING AREA. LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE COUNTING STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL IN FEET. STRONG WINDS WILL MIX DOWN IN COLD AIR ADVECTION BEGINNING EARLY MONDAY MORNING. EXTENDED...GET A BRIEF BREAK IN THE ACTION WITH HIGH PRESSURE FOR TUESDAY. THEN NEXT SYSTEM BEGINS TO IMPACT THE REGION BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. SYSTEM HEADS FOR GREAT LAKES REGION HOWEVER UPPER TROF GOES NEGATIVE AND CUTS OFF AND RAPID CYCLOGENESIS FORECAST TO OCCUR ALONG THE MID ATLANTIC COAST BY WEDNESDAY EVENING. IF PRECIPITATION MOVES IN EARLY ENOUGH WEDNESDAY WILL START OUT WITH A MIX THEN SHOULD WARM UP ENOUGH FOR RAIN HOWEVER ONCE COASTAL LOW PASSES TO EAST AND DRAWS COLDER AIR BACK INTO REGION MORE SNOW IN THE FORECAST. INCREASED TO POPS TO LIKELY FOR EVENT. .AVIATION DISCUSSION...SFC HIGH OVR RGN TDA WILL DRIFT EWD. LOW NR NEW ORLEANS THIS AFTN WILL LIFT NEWD TO CAROLINA CST ERY SUN AFTN AND THEN NWD TO PSN SEWD NYC LT SUN. VFR CONDS WILL CONT THRU ABT 18Z SUN WITH CONDS DETERIORATING RAPIDLY THRAFTR. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION...RIVERS ARE STILL RUNNING HIGH BUT ARE BELOW FLOOD AND WILL CONTINUE TO RECEDE. NO ADDITIONAL RUNOFF IS EXPECTED WITH NEXT SYSTEM SNOW ACROSS MOST OF AREA WITH SOME MIXED ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PORTION. SNOWPACK SHOULD HANDLE MID WEEK SYSTEM. WARM UP WILL BE SHORT LIVED WITH RAIN FOR A PERIOD WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT THEN BACK TO SNOW ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS SYSTEM. .ALY...WINTER STORM WARNING ENTIRE CWA SUNDAY NOON THROUGH MONDAY NOON. $$ FXUS61 KALY 140543 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 1244 AM EST SUN DEC 14 2003 DISCUSSION... FOR THOSE WHO LIKE ACTIVE WEATHER, THESE ARE GOOD TIMES, INDEED. NO SOONER DO WE PUT THE IMPENDING "BLOCKBUSTER" TO BED, WHEN ANOTHER STRONG CYCLONE ROARS THROUGH THE NORTHEAST DURING THE MIDWEEK PERIOD. WHILE THE FIRST STORM PROMISES MAINLY SNOW AND SLEET, THE SECOND LOOKS LIKE RAIN WILL BE THE PRIMARY PRECIPITATION TYPE, AT LEAST INITIALLY. HOWEVER, A HEAVY SNOWFALL MAY OCCUR LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY AS THE STORM PULLS OFF TO THE EAST, THROUGH CENTRAL NEW ENGLAND. THAT NEXT STORM IS PARTICULARLY IMPRESSIVE FOR IT'S DEPTH WHICH IS BELOW 970 MILLIBARS ACCORDING THE THE AVIATION MODEL ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. AS A RESULT, THE LOW-LEVEL WIND REALLY GETS CRANKING ON THE AVIATION, WITH SPEED IN EXCESS OF 50 KNOTS FORECAST ONLY A FEW THOUSAND FEET ABOVE THE SURFACE. WE MAKING BE LOOKING AT A WIND ADVISORY, OR MAYBE WORSE. BUT LETS TAKE FIRST STORMS FIRST. THE IMPENDING "BLOCKBUSTER" HAS ONE CAVEAT THAT KEEPS LOOMING. IT'S A WARMER STORM THAN THE ONE LAST WEEKEND, AS THE LOWEST PRESSURE IN THIS CYCLONE IS FORECAST TO TRACK INLAND OF, OR RIGHT ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST ON SOME OF THE FORECAST MODELS. THE ETA, FOR EXAMPLE, BRINGS THE LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE JERSEY SHORE THIS EVENING, THEN ACROSS LONG ISLAND TO ABOUT THE CAPE COD CANAL DURING THE LATTER PORTION OF TONIGHT. THE CANADIAN REGIONAL MODEL IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE ETA, MAYBE A TAD FURTHER WEST, JUST INLAND OF THE JERSEY SHORE TO WESTERN LONG ISLAND AROUND MIDNIGHT, AND TO JUST NORTH OF BOSTON BY DAYBREAK MONDAY. THIS TRACK ALLOWS ABOVE FREEZING AIR TO MOVE FURTHER INTO THE COUNTY WARNING AREA THAN THE PAST WEEKEND'S STORM. FOR THOSE WHO LIKE TO BE CORRECT WHEN THEY FORECAST 18 TO 24 INCHES OF SNOW, IT WAS A BIT DISTURBING TO SEE THE HOUR 12 UNIVERSAL COORDINATION TIME SATURDAY RUN OF THE CANADIAN REGIONAL MODEL HAVE A PRECIPITATION TYPE OF RAIN FORECAST FROM ABOUT 20 MILES NORTH OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT SOUTHWARD AROUND MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. THE LATEST RUN OF THIS MODEL HAS TRENDED A TAD COLDER AND IS NOW FORECASTING THE RAIN/SNOW DIVISION TO BE JUST SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT AT MIDNIGHT. AND THIS SEEMS TO BE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT THE LATEST RUN OF THE MESOSCALE ETA MODEL IS INDICATING. FORECAST SOUNDINGS FROM THE MESOSCALE ETA MODEL SUGGEST THAT THE ABOVE FREEZING LAYER WILL MOVE INTO THE SOUTHERN TIER OF ZONES ABOUT 9 OR 10 PM, WITH THE DEPTH AND WARMTH OF THAT LAYER INCREASING THROUGH SEVERAL HOURS AFTER MIDNIGHT. THE AIR ABOVE THE CAPITAL DISTRICT MAY REACH OR SLIGHTLY EXCEED FREEZING SHORTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT, BUT THEN COOLING IS FORECAST TO OCCUR SEVERAL HOURS BEFORE DAYBREAK MONDAY. WHAT THIS SUGGESTS IS THAT THERE MAY BE A BRIEF PERIOD OF SLEET IN THE CAPITAL DISTRICT, AND A MORE EXTENSIVE PERIOD OF SLEET, FREEZING RAIN, OR EVEN RAIN (AVIATION SURFACE TEMPERATURES AT POUGHKEEPSIE ARE ABOVE FREEZING AFTER EARLY THIS EVENING) TONIGHT. THE LOWER RESOLUTION FORECAST SOUNDINGS OF THE AVIATION MODEL SUGGEST ABOVE FREEZING AIR IN THE LOWER TIER OF ZONES FROM THE SURFACE TO 7500 FEET AROUND MIDNIGHT. HOWEVER, EVEN IN THE CAPITAL DISTRICT, WHERE THE MESOSCALE ETA WAS SUGGESTING POSSIBLE ABOVE FREEZING AIR ALOFT, THE AVIATION FORECASTS A TEMPERATURE BELOW FREEZING FROM THE SURFACE UPWARDS AT THAT TIME. BOTTOM LINE, WITH THE AVIATION COMING UP WITH ABOUT AN INCH AND THREE QUARTERS LIQUID EQUIVALENT PRECIPITATION FROM THIS STORM IN THE AREA FROM THE HUDSON VALLEY EASTWARD, WE ARE LIKELY TO GET A VERY HEAVY SNOWFALL IN LOCATIONS WHERE THE PRECIPITATION TYPE REMAINS ENTIRELY SNOW. HOWEVER, THERE IS A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT SOUTHERN LOCATIONS WILL HAVE LESS SNOW DUE TO THE OCCURRENCE OF MIXED PRECIPITATION TYPES. SATURDAY'S ZONE FORECAST FOR THE REGION SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT, DID HAVE MIXED PRECIPITATION FORECAST FOR TONIGHT, BUT NO MENTION OF RAIN. WE MAY ADD SOME RAIN TO THE FORECAST FOR THAT AREA ON THE NEXT RELEASE OF THE ZONE FORECAST, BUT WILL KEEP IT PRIMARILY SNOW FROM THE CAPITAL DISTRICT NORTH AND WEST. THE UPPER LIMITS OF THE STORM'S TOTAL SNOWFALL OF ABOUT 20 INCHES MENTIONED IN SATURDAY'S ZONE FORECAST FOR THE SOUTHERN TIER OF ZONES, SEEMS A BIT EXCESSIVE IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE AREA. IT WOULD SEEM THAT TO GET THIS MUCH SNOW, THAT THE PRECIPITATION TYPE WOULD HAVE TO REMAIN ENTIRELY SNOW, AND THAT LOOKS LIKE A LONG SHOT GIVEN THE TRACK AND FORECAST VERTICAL TEMPERATURE PROFILES IN THAT AREA. WE MAY CUT BACK ON THE TOTAL STORM SNOWFALL ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIER OF ZONES, BUT WILL LIKELY KEEP AMOUNTS ABOUT AS FORECAST IN SATURDAY'S ZONES FOR THE BALANCE OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. WE'LL BE GETTING OFF TO A COLD START THIS MORNING, WITH CLOUDS THICKENING RAPIDLY TODAY, THEN COMES THE SNOW. AND WITH A NORTHEAST SURFACE WIND LIKELY, WE PREFER THE LOWER MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE GUIDANCE OF THE NESTED GRID AND AVIATION. THE ETA SEEMS TOO HIGH. THE VALUES IN SATURDAY'S FORECAST SEEM FINE, AND WE LIKELY WON'T BE MAKING ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. FOR TONIGHT, AS INDICATED ABOVE, WE MAY MENTION THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME RAIN MIXING IN ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. THIS WILL REQUIRE BRINGING THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURE UP A BIT IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE REGION, FROM WHAT WAS INDICATED IN SATURDAY'S ZONE FORECAST. ALL MODELS, BUT PARTICULARLY THE ETA AND CANADIAN REGIONAL MODEL SUGGEST THAT IN TERMS OF PRECIPITATION, THE STORM WILL WIND DOWN QUICKLY ACROSS THE REGION EARLY MONDAY. THE CANADIAN REGIONAL HAVE ALMOST NO MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION FORECAST AFTER HOUR 12 UNIVERSAL COORDINATION TIME MONDAY. THE AVIATION AND CANADIAN GLOBAL HANG ONTO THE PRECIPITATION A BIT LONGER, AND FORECAST POSSIBLY ANOTHER QUARTER INCH OF LIQUID EQUIVALENT IN THE NORTHEASTERN ZONES. WITH THE BRISK NORTHERLY FLOW AND CONSIDERING THE OROGRAPHY AND CLIMATOLOGY ASSOCIATED WITH THESE COASTAL STORMS, IT SEEMS PRUDENT TO KEEP THE WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON MONDAY, WITH SEVERAL MORE INCHES OF SNOW IN THE NORTHEASTERN ZONES. THE LATEST GUIDANCE TEMPERATURES ARE GENERALLY PRETTY CONSISTENT FROM MODEL TO MODEL ACROSS THE COUNTY WARNING AREA FOR MONDAY, AND ARE SIMILAR TO SATURDAY'S ZONE FORECAST. WE'LL BE GOING FOR VALUES MAINLY FROM THE MID 20S TO MID 30S. NORTHWEST WIND OF 15 TO 25 MILE AN HOUR WITH GUSTS TO 35 MILE AN HOUR SEEM REASONABLE FOR MONDAY. THE EXTENT OF THE SNOW SHOWERS INDICATED IN SATURDAY'S ZONES SEEMS OVERDONE FOR MONDAY NIGHT. WE'LL LIKELY BE CUTTING BACK ON THE PROBABILITY OF PRECIPITATION, THOUGH WE MAY MENTION SOME FLURRIES IN THE NORTHERN MOUNTAINS. MINIMUM TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE TEENS AND LOWER 20S. HIGH PRESSURE AND DRY AIR FOR TUESDAY. LITTLE CHANGE IN THE FORECAST LIKELY. THEN THAT NEXT STORM BEGINS TO AFFECT US IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. LATEST GUIDANCE FROM THE MODELS GENERALLY SUPPORTS THE FORECAST THAT WAS ISSUED SATURDAY, THOUGH THERE MAY BE AN ISSUE WITH THE PRECIPITATION TYPE BEING RAIN SHOWERS, NOT SNOW FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE DAY CREW SATURDAY MADE A GOOD MOVE IN RAISING THE PROBABILITY OF PRECIPITATION ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. LIKELY PROBABILITIES CERTAINLY SEEM IN ORDER. .AVIATION DISCUSSION...VFR CONDITIONS THROUGH MUCH OF THIS MORNING, BUT THE ONSET OF SNOW WELL BRING CONDITIONS QUICKLY LOWERING TO IFR MID TO LATE MORNING SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON TO THE NORTH. THE IFR CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST THROUGH TONIGHT. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION...RIVERS WILL BE IN GOOD SHAPE THROUGH MIDWEEK AS THE IMPENDING SNOW STORM SHOULD PUT DOWN A DEEP AND EXTENSIVE SNOW COVER OVER AT LEAST THE NORTHERN TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNTY WARNING AREA. THEN, WE'LL HAVE MAINLY BELOW FREEZING WEATHER MONDAY AND TUESDAY, WITH A WARMUP ON WEDNESDAY. HEAVY RAIN MAY BE IN THE CARDS FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT, BUT THE SNOW SHOULD ABSORB A LOT OF THE RUNOFF, AND THERE SHOULD BE A QUICK TRANSITION TO COLDER WEATHER AS THE MIDWEEK STORM INTENSIFIES RAPIDLY AND MOVES OFF NEW ENGLAND DRAWING BELOW FREEZING AIR BACK INTO THE REGION. LOOKS LIKE EVEN THE MIDWEEK FLOOD THREAT IS MINIMAL. .ALY...WINTER STORM WARNING ENTIRE COUNTY WARNING AREA THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. HEMMERICH FXUS61 KALY 142058 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 345 PM EST SUN DEC 14 2003 .DISCUSSION... MODELS ARE IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT FOR CURRENT SYSTEM WITH TRACK AND THERMAL STRUCTURE. SYSTEM TAPS INTO ABUNDANT MOISTURE. MODELS HAVE BEEN TRENDING WARMER. 850 LOW FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY TONIGHT. WARM AIR WRAPS IN ACROSS LOWER 1/3 TO 1/2 OF FORECAST AREA. WILL HAVE TO CUT TONIGHT SNOW AMOUNTS AS EXPECT CHANGEOVER TO SLEET/FREEZING RAIN ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PORTION WITH RAIN POSSIBLE. ALL SNOW ALB NORTH WITH MIX OF SNOW AND SLEET INBETWEEN WITH CHANCE OF FREEZING RAIN. WILL END WITH SNOW ACROSS ENTIRE AREA AS LOW PULLS AWAY TO EAST FILTERING COLDER AIR BACK IN. WINTER STORM WARNING CONTINUES THROUGH MONDAY MORNING...BULK OF STORM THROUGH OVERNIGHT HOURS. SYSTEM WINDS DOWN MONDAY AM. EXTENDED... GET BRIEF BREAK IN ACTION WHEN RIDGE VISITS REGION MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES INTO GREAT LAKES REGION TUESDAY THEN RAPID CYCLOGENESIS OCCURS ALONG MID ATLANTIC WEDNESDAY. DEPENDING ON WHEN PRECIPITATION MOVES IN TUESDAY NIGHT RAIN OR SNOW BUT WILL WARM UP FOR RAIN WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT ESPECIALLY ACROSS EASTERN 2/3 OF THE FORECAST AREA. COLDER AIR WILL BE DRAWN BACK INTO THE REGION AS THE COASTAL LOW HEADS NORTHWARD INTO NEW ENGLAND LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT/THURSDAY CHANGING THE RAIN TO SNOW. ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT STORM FOR NORTHEAST UNITED STATES. .AVIATION DISCUSSION... DEEPENING LOW SRN END OF DELMARVA AT 21Z WILL LIFT NEWD TO S LONG ISLAND ARND 06Z TNGT AND INTO GLF ME BY 12Z MON. LIFR/IFR CONDS WILL PERSIST THRU AT LEAST 09Z. SNOW MAY CHG TO SLEET/FRZG RAIN FOR AWHILE OVRNGT SERN NY. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION... MID WEEK BARES WATCHING AS WE WARM UP AHEAD OF NEXT SYSTEM AND EXPECT ANOTHER ROUND OF RAIN WHICH COULD BE HEAVY. SNOW COVER SHOULD ABSORB A LOT OF RUNOFF PLUS COLDER AIR WILL FILTER BACK IN BEHIND SYSTEM. .ALY...WINTER STORM WARNING ENTIRE COUNTY WARNING AREA THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. $$ FXUS61 KALY 150230 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 930 PM EST SUN DEC 14 2003 UPDATED PACKAGE. CHANGE OVER TO SLEET HERE AT OFFICE AND POINTS JUST TO NORTH...CLIFTON PARK. DUE TO SLEET HAD TO LOWER SNOW TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS. *********PREVIOUS DISCUSSION FROM 3:45 PM******************* .DISCUSSION... MODELS ARE IN VERY GOOD AGREEMENT FOR CURRENT SYSTEM WITH TRACK AND THERMAL STRUCTURE. SYSTEM TAPS INTO ABUNDANT MOISTURE. MODELS HAVE BEEN TRENDING WARMER. 850 LOW FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS THE LOWER HUDSON VALLEY TONIGHT. WARM AIR WRAPS IN ACROSS LOWER 1/3 TO 1/2 OF FORECAST AREA. WILL HAVE TO CUT TONIGHT SNOW AMOUNTS AS EXPECT CHANGEOVER TO SLEET/FREEZING RAIN ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PORTION WITH RAIN POSSIBLE. ALL SNOW ALB NORTH WITH MIX OF SNOW AND SLEET INBETWEEN WITH CHANCE OF FREEZING RAIN. WILL END WITH SNOW ACROSS ENTIRE AREA AS LOW PULLS AWAY TO EAST FILTERING COLDER AIR BACK IN. WINTER STORM WARNING CONTINUES THROUGH MONDAY MORNING...BULK OF STORM THROUGH OVERNIGHT HOURS. SYSTEM WINDS DOWN MONDAY AM. EXTENDED... GET BRIEF BREAK IN ACTION WHEN RIDGE VISITS REGION MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES INTO GREAT LAKES REGION TUESDAY THEN RAPID CYCLOGENESIS OCCURS ALONG MID ATLANTIC WEDNESDAY. DEPENDING ON WHEN PRECIPITATION MOVES IN TUESDAY NIGHT RAIN OR SNOW BUT WILL WARM UP FOR RAIN WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT ESPECIALLY ACROSS EASTERN 2/3 OF THE FORECAST AREA. COLDER AIR WILL BE DRAWN BACK INTO THE REGION AS THE COASTAL LOW HEADS NORTHWARD INTO NEW ENGLAND LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT/THURSDAY CHANGING THE RAIN TO SNOW. ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT STORM FOR NORTHEAST UNITED STATES. .AVIATION DISCUSSION... DEEPENING LOW SRN END OF DELMARVA AT 21Z WILL LIFT NEWD TO S LONG ISLAND ARND 06Z TNGT AND INTO GLF ME BY 12Z MON. LIFR/IFR CONDS WILL PERSIST THRU AT LEAST 09Z. SNOW MAY CHG TO SLEET/FRZG RAIN FOR AWHILE OVRNGT SERN NY. .HYDROLOGICAL DISCUSSION... MID WEEK BARES WATCHING AS WE WARM UP AHEAD OF NEXT SYSTEM AND EXPECT ANOTHER ROUND OF RAIN WHICH COULD BE HEAVY. SNOW COVER SHOULD ABSORB A LOT OF RUNOFF PLUS COLDER AIR WILL FILTER BACK IN BEHIND SYSTEM. ************************************************************** .ALY...WINTER STORM WARNING ENTIRE COUNTY WARNING AREA THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. $$ FXUS61 KALY 150552 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 1252 AM EST MON DEC 15 2003 .DISCUSSION... THE LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY WAS INDICATING THAT THE COASTAL STORM WAS CONTINUING TO INTENSIFY AND SHOULD BRING HEAVY SNOW TO THE REGION THE BALANCE OF THE DARK HOURS THIS MORNING. AFTER DAYBREAK, THERE MAY BE AS MUCH AS 4 TO 6 INCHES OF ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL IN THE SOUTHERN GREEN MOUNTAINS, WITH 2 TO 4 INCHES POSSIBLE IN THE NORTHERN TACONICS AND BERKSHIRES FROM THE STORM'S RESIDUAL WRAPAROUND MOISTURE ACTING UPON THE OROGRAPHY OF EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. THE FORECAST MODELS SUGGEST THE CYCLONE WILL DEEPEN TO SEVERAL MILLIBARS BELOW THE 990 MILLIBAR LEVEL DURING THE DAY AS IT MOVES NORTHWARD OFF THE NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND COAST BEFORE THE SYSTEM REACHES OCCLUSION THIS EVENING. THE FORECAST LOW-LEVEL WIND FIELD IS FAIRLY STRONG FOR TODAY, WITH THE CANADIAN REGIONAL MODEL SUGGESTING WIND NEAR 60 KNOTS AROUND 5 OR 6 THOUSAND FEET FROM THE LOWER CATSKILLS ACROSS INTO THE SOUTHERN BERKSHIRES LATE THIS MORNING AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. THE MESOSCALE ETA MODEL FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW LESS WIND THAN THE CANADIAN, BUT STILL SUGGEST A MARGINAL WIND ADVISORY. THE DEPTH OF THE MOST UNSTABLE AIR JUST ABOVE THE SURFACE IS RATHER SHALLOW ONLY EXTENDING 3 OR 4 THOUSAND FEET OFF THE SURFACE, AND DOESN'T APPEAR TO QUITE BE A DRY ADIABATIC LAPSE RATE. WE'LL PROBABLY NOT HOIST THE ADVISORY FLAG AS IT IS UNLIKELY THAT THE GUSTS WILL EXCEED 47 MILES AN HOUR OVER A WIDE AREA, EXCEPT FOR THE MOST ELEVATED MOUNTAIN LOCATIONS, AND THE SUSTAINED WIND IS UNLIKELY TO REACH 35 MILES AN HOUR. THE GUIDANCE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE 3OS TODAY, MAINLY THE LOWER AND MIDDLE 30S. SUNDAY'S ZONE FORECAST HAD VALUES A BIT LOWER IN THE WESTERN ZONES, AND WE MAY BE BUMPING THE TEMPERATURES UP SLIGHTLY ON THE NEXT FORECAST. A WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE BUILDS IN QUICKLY LATE TODAY AND THIS EVENING. THE WIND SHOULD BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE TONIGHT, WITH A PARTIALLY CLEAR SKY. THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES WILL BE LOWER THAN THIS MORNING. MODEL GUIDANCE VALUES ARE FAIRLY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER IN MOST LOCATIONS, HOWEVER, READINGS IN THE LOWER CONNECTICUT RIVER VALLEY SHOW THE GREATEST VARIANCE. WE PREFER THE LOWER VALUES OF THE ETA AND AVIATION GUIDANCE THERE, WHICH WOULD HAVE TEMPERATURES BETWEEN 10 AND 15 DEGREES. SUNDAY'S ZONE FORECAST HAD READINGS BETWEEN 15 AND 20 IN MOST ZONES, AND THIS LOOKS REASONABLE GIVEN THE FRESH SNOW COVER, LIGHT WIND AND PARTLY CLOUDY SKY. THE UPPER-LEVEL RIDGE CRESTS OVER THE COUNTY WARNING AREA LATE TONIGHT, AND THEN MOVES OFF TO THE EAST ON TUESDAY. THE SURFACE RIDGE FOLLOWS ITS LEAD, AND THE GRADIENT WIND STRENGTHENS FROM THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST LATE TUESDAY. THE LOW-LEVEL THICKNESS SUGGESTS A PRETTY MILD DAY, BUT WITH THE SNOW COVER AND ITS ASSOCIATED HIGH ALBEDO, WE'D EXPECT A LOT OF THE SOLAR INSOLATION TO BE RADIATED HEAVENWARD. THUS, WE'D TEMPER THE URGE TO RAISE THE TEMPERATURE MUCH ON TUESDAY, AND WOULD EXPECT VALUES TO BE HIGHER THAN TODAY, BUT NOT BY A LOT. GUIDANCE VALUES ARE GENERALLY 3 TO 6 DEGREES HIGHER THAN TODAY, WHICH IS NOT UNREASONABLE GIVEN THE FRESH SNOW COVER. IN ANY CASE, MOST LOCATIONS SHOULD BE AT LEAST A FEW DEGREES ABOVE FREEZING. THE VALUES IN SUNDAY'S ZONES LOOK FINE; HIGHS IN THE 30S AGAIN. THE NEXT CYCLONE CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO CRANK PRETTY GOOD. THE AVIATION, CANADIAN GLOBAL AND THE EUROPEAN ALL INDICATE THAT A SECONDARY LOW PRESSURE WILL DEEPEN RAPIDLY LATE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. A STRONG SOUTHERLY GRADIENT WIND FLOW IN ADVANCE OF THIS SYSTEM WILL DRIVE ENOUGH MILD AIR ACROSS THE REGION TO REDUCE THE SNOW COVER CONSIDERABLY. ALSO, THE AVIATION MODEL FORECASTS MORE THAN 2 INCHES OF PRECIPITATION WITH THIS SYSTEM, AND THE CANADIAN GLOBAL CHECKS IN WITH A BIT OVER AN INCH, WHICH WILL ONLY EXACERBATE THE FLOOD THREAT (SEE HYDROLOGY SEGMENT). THERE IS ALSO CONCERN FOR STRONG SURFACE WIND THAT MAY EVEN BECOME STRONG ENOUGH TO HOIST THE HIGH WIND FLAG SOME TIME LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. THE AVIATION FORECAST SOUNDINGS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY INDICATING 40 TO 45 KNOTS NEAR THE SURFACE FOR SEVERAL RUNS OF THAT MODEL IN THE LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY AFTERNOON TIME FRAME. THE DEPTH OF THE LOW PRESSURE WAS FORECAST TO BE NEAR 962 MILLIBARS ON THE HOUR 12 UNIVERSAL COORDINATION TIME RUN OF THE AVIATION MODEL. THE LATEST RUN IS NOT THAT DEEP, BUT STILL GETS THE CYCLONE DOWN TO NEAR 970 MILLIBARS, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LATEST CANADIAN GLOBAL MODEL FORECAST. THE EUROPEAN MODEL DID NOT INDICATE AS STRONG A SYSTEM ON ITS FORECAST 24 HOURS AGO, BUT THE LATEST RUN INDICATES A STRONGER SYSTEM, MORE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER MODELS. THE LOW TRANSLATES QUITE RAPIDLY TOO, AND THIS FAVORS STRONGER WIND THAT IF IT WAS A SLOW-MOVER. THE ZONE FORECAST THAT WAS ISSUED SUNDAY LOOKS REASONABLE FOR THE MIDWEEK PERIOD, ALTHOUGH THERE IS APPEARS THAT THE FORECAST THICKNESS VALUES ARE MORE FAVORABLE FOR RAIN THAN SNOW TUESDAY NIGHT, WHEN THERE IS A 30 PERCENT CHANCE OF RAIN AND SNOW IN THE ZONES. THE LATEST CLIMATOLOGICAL-STATISTICAL FORECAST FROM THE AVIATION AND NEST GRID MODELS INDICATES ONLY RAIN FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. WE MAY MAKE A MODIFICATION HERE ON THE NEXT FORECAST. HOWEVER, THE LIKELIHOOD OF RAIN THAT IS FORECAST FOR WEDNESDAY AND MOST OF WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH A TRANSITION TO SNOW IN THE WESTERN ZONES BY EARLY THURSDAY LOOKS RIGHT ON TARGET, AND NO CHANGES ARE ANTICIPATED. THE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES THAT ARE FORECAST BY THE AVIATION GUIDANCE ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS INDICATED IN SUNDAY'S ZONE FORECAST FOR WEDNESDAY. THE GUIDANCE VALUES MAY BE BETTER, AS THE FORECAST SOUTHERLY GRADIENT FLOW IS QUITE BRISK. HOWEVER, IT'S LIKELY THAT THE MELTING SNOW COVER WILL STEAL SOME OF THE POTENTIAL HEATING. WE'LL PROBABLY BUMP THE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES UP A BIT FOR WEDNESDAY, GOING CLOSE TO THE AVIATION GUIDANCE. IT ALMOST GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT WE LIKE THE, "WINDY," THAT THE ZONES HAVE INDICATED FOR THURSDAY. WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT WIND POTENTIAL. WE WON'T BE MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE FORECAST DURING THE LATTER PORTION OF THE WEEK. THERE MAY BE SOME LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS AROUND FRIDAY AS INDICATED IN SUNDAY'S ZONES, THEN A MINOR PERTURBATION MOVES ACROSS THE REGION ON SATURDAY WHICH MAY BRING A MINOR ACCUMULATION OF SNOW. THIS IS INDICATED IN SUNDAY'S ZONES. .AVIATION DISCUSSION... DEEPENING LOW OVER EASTERN NEW JERSEY WILL LIFT NEWD TO CAPE COD BY 12Z MON. LIFR/IFR CONDS WILL PERSIST THRU AT LEAST 12Z. SNOW WILL MIX WITH SLEET/FRZG RAIN FOR AWHILE SERN NY BUT SHOULD CHANGE BACK TO ALL SNOW BY 08Z. IFR CONDITIONS WILL LINGER INTO MORNING WITH OCCASIONAL LIFR IN SNOW SHOWERS. VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED BY LATE AFTERNOON. THE DISTURBANCE IS EAST OF THE REGION SUNDAY, AND THAT DAY LOOKS DRY AS INDICATED IN THE ZONES. .HYDROLOGY DISCUSSION... RIVERS GENERALLY STEADY OR FALLING AT THIS TIME. HOUSATONIC REMAINS HIGH IN CONNECTICUT. SOME FREEZING RAIN REPORTED EARLIER TONIGHT ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PART OF CWA BUT LITTLE CHANGE TO STAGES EXPECTED TODAY AS RUNOFF WAS MINIMAL AND TEMPERATURES ACROSS AREA WILL REMAIN COLD ENOUGH TO KEEP ICE/SNOW FROZEN. NEXT BIG STORM SYSTEM FORECAST FOR WEDNESDAY. THIS SYSTEM LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO LAST WEEKS WED/THU STORM AS RAIN IS EXPECTED. MODELS FORECASTING 1+ INCHES OF PRECIPITATION. ESF MAY BE NEEDED FOR FLOODING POTENTIAL LATE WED INTO THU WITH AFTERNOON PAGKAGE. SD ************************************************************** .ALY...WINTER STORM WARNING ENTIRE COUNTY WARNING AREA THROUGH THIS MORNING. $$ HEMMERICH FXUS61 KALY 151425 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 925 AM EST MON DEC 15 2003 .DISCUSSION...WILL UPDATE ZONES TO DROP THE WINTER STORM WARNING. SOME SNOW SHOWERS REMAIN...BUT NOTHING SIGNIFICANT. WILL LEAVE SNOW SHOWERS LIKELY IN THE FORECAST FOR MOST ZONES FOR THE REST OF TODAY ...WITH ADDITIONAL ACCUMULATION OF AN INCH OR LESS. JUST SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS SOUTHEAST ZONES. MAGLARAS ......................PREVIOUS DISCUSSION......................... DISCUSSION... THE LATEST WATER VAPOR IMAGERY WAS INDICATING THAT THE COASTAL STORM WAS CONTINUING TO INTENSIFY AND SHOULD BRING HEAVY SNOW TO THE REGION THE BALANCE OF THE DARK HOURS THIS MORNING. AFTER DAYBREAK, THERE MAY BE AS MUCH AS 4 TO 6 INCHES OF ADDITIONAL SNOWFALL IN THE SOUTHERN GREEN MOUNTAINS, WITH 2 TO 4 INCHES POSSIBLE IN THE NORTHERN TACONICS AND BERKSHIRES FROM THE STORM'S RESIDUAL WRAPAROUND MOISTURE ACTING UPON THE OROGRAPHY OF EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND. THE FORECAST MODELS SUGGEST THE CYCLONE WILL DEEPEN TO SEVERAL MILLIBARS BELOW THE 990 MILLIBAR LEVEL DURING THE DAY AS IT MOVES NORTHWARD OFF THE NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND COAST BEFORE THE SYSTEM REACHES OCCLUSION THIS EVENING. THE FORECAST LOW-LEVEL WIND FIELD IS FAIRLY STRONG FOR TODAY, WITH THE CANADIAN REGIONAL MODEL SUGGESTING WIND NEAR 60 KNOTS AROUND 5 OR 6 THOUSAND FEET FROM THE LOWER CATSKILLS ACROSS INTO THE SOUTHERN BERKSHIRES LATE THIS MORNING AND EARLY THIS AFTERNOON. THE MESOSCALE ETA MODEL FORECAST SOUNDINGS SHOW LESS WIND THAN THE CANADIAN, BUT STILL SUGGEST A MARGINAL WIND ADVISORY. THE DEPTH OF THE MOST UNSTABLE AIR JUST ABOVE THE SURFACE IS RATHER SHALLOW ONLY EXTENDING 3 OR 4 THOUSAND FEET OFF THE SURFACE, AND DOESN'T APPEAR TO QUITE BE A DRY ADIABATIC LAPSE RATE. WE'LL PROBABLY NOT HOIST THE ADVISORY FLAG AS IT IS UNLIKELY THAT THE GUSTS WILL EXCEED 47 MILES AN HOUR OVER A WIDE AREA, EXCEPT FOR THE MOST ELEVATED MOUNTAIN LOCATIONS, AND THE SUSTAINED WIND IS UNLIKELY TO REACH 35 MILES AN HOUR. THE GUIDANCE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES ARE IN THE 3OS TODAY, MAINLY THE LOWER AND MIDDLE 30S. SUNDAY'S ZONE FORECAST HAD VALUES A BIT LOWER IN THE WESTERN ZONES, AND WE MAY BE BUMPING THE TEMPERATURES UP SLIGHTLY ON THE NEXT FORECAST. A WEAK HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE BUILDS IN QUICKLY LATE TODAY AND THIS EVENING. THE WIND SHOULD BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE TONIGHT, WITH A PARTIALLY CLEAR SKY. THE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES WILL BE LOWER THAN THIS MORNING. MODEL GUIDANCE VALUES ARE FAIRLY CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER IN MOST LOCATIONS, HOWEVER, READINGS IN THE LOWER CONNECTICUT RIVER VALLEY SHOW THE GREATEST VARIANCE. WE PREFER THE LOWER VALUES OF THE ETA AND AVIATION GUIDANCE THERE, WHICH WOULD HAVE TEMPERATURES BETWEEN 10 AND 15 DEGREES. SUNDAY'S ZONE FORECAST HAD READINGS BETWEEN 15 AND 20 IN MOST ZONES, AND THIS LOOKS REASONABLE GIVEN THE FRESH SNOW COVER, LIGHT WIND AND PARTLY CLOUDY SKY. THE UPPER-LEVEL RIDGE CRESTS OVER THE COUNTY WARNING AREA LATE TONIGHT, AND THEN MOVES OFF TO THE EAST ON TUESDAY. THE SURFACE RIDGE FOLLOWS ITS LEAD, AND THE GRADIENT WIND STRENGTHENS FROM THE SOUTH SOUTHWEST LATE TUESDAY. THE LOW-LEVEL THICKNESS SUGGESTS A PRETTY MILD DAY, BUT WITH THE SNOW COVER AND ITS ASSOCIATED HIGH ALBEDO, WE'D EXPECT A LOT OF THE SOLAR INSOLATION TO BE RADIATED HEAVENWARD. THUS, WE'D TEMPER THE URGE TO RAISE THE TEMPERATURE MUCH ON TUESDAY, AND WOULD EXPECT VALUES TO BE HIGHER THAN TODAY, BUT NOT BY A LOT. GUIDANCE VALUES ARE GENERALLY 3 TO 6 DEGREES HIGHER THAN TODAY, WHICH IS NOT UNREASONABLE GIVEN THE FRESH SNOW COVER. IN ANY CASE, MOST LOCATIONS SHOULD BE AT LEAST A FEW DEGREES ABOVE FREEZING. THE VALUES IN SUNDAY'S ZONES LOOK FINE; HIGHS IN THE 30S AGAIN. THE NEXT CYCLONE CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE IT'S GOING TO CRANK PRETTY GOOD. THE AVIATION, CANADIAN GLOBAL AND THE EUROPEAN ALL INDICATE THAT A SECONDARY LOW PRESSURE WILL DEEPEN RAPIDLY LATE WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. A STRONG SOUTHERLY GRADIENT WIND FLOW IN ADVANCE OF THIS SYSTEM WILL DRIVE ENOUGH MILD AIR ACROSS THE REGION TO REDUCE THE SNOW COVER CONSIDERABLY. ALSO, THE AVIATION MODEL FORECASTS MORE THAN 2 INCHES OF PRECIPITATION WITH THIS SYSTEM, AND THE CANADIAN GLOBAL CHECKS IN WITH A BIT OVER AN INCH, WHICH WILL ONLY EXACERBATE THE FLOOD THREAT (SEE HYDROLOGY SEGMENT). THERE IS ALSO CONCERN FOR STRONG SURFACE WIND THAT MAY EVEN BECOME STRONG ENOUGH TO HOIST THE HIGH WIND FLAG SOME TIME LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. THE AVIATION FORECAST SOUNDINGS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY INDICATING 40 TO 45 KNOTS NEAR THE SURFACE FOR SEVERAL RUNS OF THAT MODEL IN THE LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY AFTERNOON TIME FRAME. THE DEPTH OF THE LOW PRESSURE WAS FORECAST TO BE NEAR 962 MILLIBARS ON THE HOUR 12 UNIVERSAL COORDINATION TIME RUN OF THE AVIATION MODEL. THE LATEST RUN IS NOT THAT DEEP, BUT STILL GETS THE CYCLONE DOWN TO NEAR 970 MILLIBARS, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LATEST CANADIAN GLOBAL MODEL FORECAST. THE EUROPEAN MODEL DID NOT INDICATE AS STRONG A SYSTEM ON ITS FORECAST 24 HOURS AGO, BUT THE LATEST RUN INDICATES A STRONGER SYSTEM, MORE IN LINE WITH THE OTHER MODELS. THE LOW TRANSLATES QUITE RAPIDLY TOO, AND THIS FAVORS STRONGER WIND THAT IF IT WAS A SLOW-MOVER. THE ZONE FORECAST THAT WAS ISSUED SUNDAY LOOKS REASONABLE FOR THE MIDWEEK PERIOD, ALTHOUGH THERE IS APPEARS THAT THE FORECAST THICKNESS VALUES ARE MORE FAVORABLE FOR RAIN THAN SNOW TUESDAY NIGHT, WHEN THERE IS A 30 PERCENT CHANCE OF RAIN AND SNOW IN THE ZONES. THE LATEST CLIMATOLOGICAL-STATISTICAL FORECAST FROM THE AVIATION AND NEST GRID MODELS INDICATES ONLY RAIN FOR TUESDAY NIGHT. WE MAY MAKE A MODIFICATION HERE ON THE NEXT FORECAST. HOWEVER, THE LIKELIHOOD OF RAIN THAT IS FORECAST FOR WEDNESDAY AND MOST OF WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH A TRANSITION TO SNOW IN THE WESTERN ZONES BY EARLY THURSDAY LOOKS RIGHT ON TARGET, AND NO CHANGES ARE ANTICIPATED. THE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES THAT ARE FORECAST BY THE AVIATION GUIDANCE ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS INDICATED IN SUNDAY'S ZONE FORECAST FOR WEDNESDAY. THE GUIDANCE VALUES MAY BE BETTER, AS THE FORECAST SOUTHERLY GRADIENT FLOW IS QUITE BRISK. HOWEVER, IT'S LIKELY THAT THE MELTING SNOW COVER WILL STEAL SOME OF THE POTENTIAL HEATING. WE'LL PROBABLY BUMP THE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES UP A BIT FOR WEDNESDAY, GOING CLOSE TO THE AVIATION GUIDANCE. IT ALMOST GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT WE LIKE THE, "WINDY," THAT THE ZONES HAVE INDICATED FOR THURSDAY. WE'LL HAVE TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT WIND POTENTIAL. WE WON'T BE MAKING ANY CHANGES TO THE FORECAST DURING THE LATTER PORTION OF THE WEEK. THERE MAY BE SOME LINGERING SNOW SHOWERS AROUND FRIDAY AS INDICATED IN SUNDAY'S ZONES, THEN A MINOR PERTURBATION MOVES ACROSS THE REGION ON SATURDAY WHICH MAY BRING A MINOR ACCUMULATION OF SNOW. THIS IS INDICATED IN SUNDAY'S ZONES. .AVIATION DISCUSSION... DEEPENING LOW OVER EASTERN NEW JERSEY WILL LIFT NEWD TO CAPE COD BY 12Z MON. LIFR/IFR CONDS WILL PERSIST THRU AT LEAST 12Z. SNOW WILL MIX WITH SLEET/FRZG RAIN FOR AWHILE SERN NY BUT SHOULD CHANGE BACK TO ALL SNOW BY 08Z. IFR CONDITIONS WILL LINGER INTO MORNING WITH OCCASIONAL LIFR IN SNOW SHOWERS. VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED BY LATE AFTERNOON. THE DISTURBANCE IS EAST OF THE REGION SUNDAY, AND THAT DAY LOOKS DRY AS INDICATED IN THE ZONES. .HYDROLOGY DISCUSSION... RIVERS GENERALLY STEADY OR FALLING AT THIS TIME. HOUSATONIC REMAINS HIGH IN CONNECTICUT. SOME FREEZING RAIN REPORTED EARLIER TONIGHT ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PART OF CWA BUT LITTLE CHANGE TO STAGES EXPECTED TODAY AS RUNOFF WAS MINIMAL AND TEMPERATURES ACROSS AREA WILL REMAIN COLD ENOUGH TO KEEP ICE/SNOW FROZEN. NEXT BIG STORM SYSTEM FORECAST FOR WEDNESDAY. THIS SYSTEM LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO LAST WEEKS WED/THU STORM AS RAIN IS EXPECTED. MODELS FORECASTING 1+ INCHES OF PRECIPITATION. ESF MAY BE NEEDED FOR FLOODING POTENTIAL LATE WED INTO THU WITH AFTERNOON PAGKAGE. SD ************************************************************** .ALY...WINTER STORM WARNING ENTIRE COUNTY WARNING AREA THROUGH THIS MORNING. $$ HEMMERICH FXUS61 KALY 151643 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 1145 AM EST MON DEC 15 2003 .DISCUSSION...WILL UPDATE ZONES ONCE AGAIN. SNOW SHOWERS HAVE DIMINISHED CONSIDERABLY...SO WILL FORECAST JUST SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS FOR MOST AREAS...AND SCT FLURRIES SOUTHEAST. HAVE ALSO TWEAKED HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR TODAY. MAGLARAS .HYDROLOGY DISCUSSION... RIVERS GENERALLY STEADY OR FALLING AT THIS TIME. HOUSATONIC REMAINS HIGH IN CONNECTICUT. SOME FREEZING RAIN REPORTED EARLIER TONIGHT ACROSS SOUTHEASTERN PART OF CWA BUT LITTLE CHANGE TO STAGES EXPECTED TODAY AS RUNOFF WAS MINIMAL AND TEMPERATURES ACROSS AREA WILL REMAIN COLD ENOUGH TO KEEP ICE/SNOW FROZEN. NEXT BIG STORM SYSTEM FORECAST FOR WEDNESDAY. THIS SYSTEM LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO LAST WEEKS WED/THU STORM AS RAIN IS EXPECTED. MODELS FORECASTING 1+ INCHES OF PRECIPITATION. ESF MAY BE NEEDED FOR FLOODING POTENTIAL LATE WED INTO THU WITH AFTERNOON PAGKAGE. SD ************************************************************** .ALY...NONE. $$ MAGLARAS FXUS61 KALY 151942 AFDALY AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY 250 PM EST MON DEC 15 2003 .DISCUSSION... SECOND MAJOR SNOW STORM (THIRD MAJOR STORM) IN JUST OVER A WEEK IS NOW DEPARTING. PNSALY ISSUED LATE THIS MORNING WILL BE FINAL FOR THE STORM. GUSTY WEST TO NORTHWEST WINDS IN ITS WAKE SHOULD DIMINISH QUICKLY AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN. FLOW TOO NORTHWESTERLY FOR MUCH IN WAY OF LAKE EFFECT. H8 FLOW DOES BECOME A LITTLE MORE WESTERLY TONIGHT BUT BY THAT TIME SURFACE HIGH BUILDING IN AND INVERSION STRENGTHENS STEADILY. WILL INCLUDE ONLY EVENING FLURRIES EXTREME WEST PORTION AND IN UPSLOPE AREAS EAST OF THE HUDSON VALLEY. NEXT STORM SETTING UP FOR WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY. GFS FASTER AND NOT AS DEEP AS ETA. 00Z CANADIAN MORE ETA-LIKE. WILL LEAN TO GFS BUT SLOW TIMING DOWN A LITTLE BASED ON ETA. 12Z GFS THICKNESSES INDICATE MUCH IF NOT ALL OF FIRST PHASE OF STORM WILL BE RAIN. DID INCLUDE A LITTLE SLEET AT THE START ADIRONDACKS. BY LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON COLDER AIR BEGINNING TO WORK BACK INTO WEST PORTION OF CWA. UPPER LOW CROSSES NORTH COUNTRY AND MAY PRODUCE A DECENT BAND OF BACKLASH SNOW INTO ADIRONDACKS. IN ADDITION PROLONGED LAKE EFFECT EVENT LIKELY WITH LAKE SNOWS NOT WINDING DOWN UNTIL LATE FRIDAY. AS COLD AIR WORKS IN WEDNESDAY NIGHT GFS CUTS PRECIPITATION OFF PRETTY QUICKLY AND THAT MIGHT LIMIT SNOW AMOUNTS SOUTH AND EAST PORTIONS OF CWA. RAIN AND SNOWMELT WEDNESDAY COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL. WILL ISSUE SPS TO COVER WATER AND SNOW PROBLEMS WITH UPCOMING STORM. QPF TOPS 1.5 (GFS) EXTENDED (FRI NIGHT - MONDAY)...DECENT CLIPPER WILL AFFECT THE AREA EARLY IN THE WEEKEND. LAKE EFFECT LEFTOVERS SUNDAY WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN MONDAY. GFS SUGGEST A KINDER GENTLER WEATHER PATTERN POST DAY SEVEN - TIME WILL TELL. .AVIATION DISCUSSION...LOTS OF STRATOCU LINGERING BUT DOWNSLOPE CLEARING SE PORTION OF CWA AND CLOUDS DECREASING N AND W OF CWA. LOCAL MVFR CIGS UNTIL AROUND 00Z WITH ISOLD -SHSN BUT GENERALLY VFR CONDITIONS. WINDS GUSTS TO 35 KT REMAINDER OF AFTERNOON WITH WINDS DIMINISHING AND CLOUDS DECREASING OVERNIGHT. .HYDROLOGY DISCUSSION...NO HYDRO PROBLEMS THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT. RAIN AND SNOWMELT WEDNESDAY COULD BE SUBSTANTIAL AND WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR POSSIBLE FLOOD ISSUES. .ALY...NONE. $$
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