FXUS63 KLSX 270510 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1110 PM CST SUN NOV 26 2006 .DISCUSSION... LTL CHG IN OVRALL FCST TRENDS IN THE SHORT TERM...AS GFS/NAM REMAIN IN AGREEMENT THAT UNSEASONABLY WARM AMS WL CONT TO BLANKET REGION. WITH NO CHG IN AMS CLOUDS AND POSSIBLE PCPN WL BE THE DETERMINING FACTORS IN HOW WARM TO GO...BUT EVEN WITH A GOOD DEAL OF CLOUDINESS THIS AFTN TEMPS HAVE SOARED 15-20 DEGREES ABV NORMAL. HV BASICALLY GONE WITH PERSISTENCE WITH MAX TEMPS OF 65-70 THRU TUE. ITS POSSIBLE THAT TUE CULD BE A BIT COOLER DUE TO THICKER CLOUD COVER AND A BIT HIER CHC OF RAIN...BUT MODELS HAVE BEEN WAY TOO ROBUST WITH LO LVL MOISTURE IN THE WRM SECTOR FOR THE LAST 3-4 DAYS SO JUDGING BY RECENT HISTORY WARMER IS THE WAY TO GO. BASIC PCPN TRENDS HV ALSO CHANGED LTL THRU TUE...WITH A SLO INCR IN POPS FROM NW TO SE DURG THE PD AS LO LVLS OF AMS BGNS TO MOISTEN AND SW UPR LVL FLOW BGNS TO ADV WK SHTWV ENERGY INTO AREA. MET/MAV POPS BASED OFF OF 12Z RUNS ARE SUGGESTING A BIT OF A BOUNCE IN THE POPS MON NGT AND/OR TUE INTO THE HIGH CHC/LOW LIKELY CATEGORIES...BUT HV TROUBLE THIS IS JUSTIFIED IN SE AREAS WHERE DYNAMICS WL RMN WEAK. IT APRS THAT THE UNSEASONABLY WARM WEATHER OF THE PAST WEEK WILL COME TO A RATHER SHOCKING END DURING THE LAST HALF OF THE WEEK. INITIALLY...IT LOOKED LIKE THE MAIN IMPACT WOULD BE A SHARP DROP IN TEMPS ON THU...BUT MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HAVE NOW VEERED TOWARD THE PSBLTY OF WINTERY PRECIPITATION AS WELL. BFR GOING TOO FAR...IT SHOULD BE SAID THAT MODEL SOLNS IN THE MEDIUM RANGE ARE QUITE DIVERSE. AND GIVEN WHERE THE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY LOCATED DON'T THINK THAT IT'S YET BEEN SAMPLED BY MUCH UA DATA...SO NWP OUTPUT HAS TO BE TAKEN WITH A GRAIN OF SALT. THAT SAID...ALL OF THE MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HAVE BEGUN TO EXHIBIT A SIMILAR TREND. INSTEAD OF DEEPENING TROF OVR ROCKIES THEN SWEEPING THE SYS EWD...WHICH WULD GIVE US ONE SHOT AT PCPN WITH THE ARRIVAL OF THE COLDER TEMPS...THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE NOW DRIVING A SECOND SHOT OF ENERGY INTO THE BASE OF THE TROF...WHICH FIRST CAUSES IT TO LAG...THEN LIFT OUT AFTER THE COLD AIR HAS PLUNGED INTO THE MID MS VLY. OTHER THAN A SLIGHT HICCUP IN LAST NIGHTS SOLNS...MEDIUM RANGE MODELS HV REMAINED VRY SIMILAR WITH THE INITIAL SWD PUSH OF THE COLDER AIR INTO AREA. FROPA SHUD OCR OVR N SECTIONS OF FA WED MRNG...BUT THE FRONT ARRIVING IN THE SOUTHEAST COUNTIES BY ERY EVE. DURING THIS TIME...ALL OF THE PCPN SHUD BE LQD...WITH A CHC OF THUNDER CONTG ALG/AHD OF CDFNT. WED NGT-THU NGT ARE THE MAIN QUESTION MARKS AS FAR AS WINTERY PCPN IS CONCERNED. GIVEN STRENGTH OF COLD AIR NO DOUBT THAT AMS WL BE COLD ENUF IN SOME SPOTS OF FA TO CHG LQD PCPN OVR TO SLEET OR SNOW...MAIN QUESTION IS HOW MUCH PCPN WL OCR AFTER THE AMS REACHES THE CRITICAL TEMP THRESHOLDS. FOR NOW...AND WITH SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY IN THE SOLNS THIS FAR OUT...HAVE INTRODUCED RAIN CHGG TO SNW FROM N TO S ON WED NGT...THEN CONTD MENTION OF PRIMARILY SNOW OVR SE HLF OF CWA THU AND THU NGT. THIS CULD BE A MESSY WINTER WX SITUATION FOR SOMEWHERE IN THE MID MS AND OHIO VALLEYS...DEPENDING UPON HOW THE SYSTEM EVOLVES. HOW MUCH AND EXACTLY WHERE HEAVIEST PCPN WL OCR DEPENDS UPON HOW INTS SYS IS AND WHEN IT DECIDES TO LIFT OUT OF THE BASE OF THE TROF...AND WL HAVE TO WAIT FOR A CPL MORE MODEL RUNS TO TRY TO PIN THAT DOWN. TRUETT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 06Z TAFS...CDFNT EXTDS FM WI SW THRU EXTREME NWRN MO TO THE OK PNHDL. THIS CDFNT WILL SINK SEWD THRU NWRN MO LT TGT...BUT SHOULD REMAIN NW OF THE TAF SITES THRU THE PERIOD. THUS A SLY SFC WND WL CONT AT THE TAF SITES WITH THE LARGE PERSISTANT SFC RDG ACRS THE SERN US. PLENTY OF MID-HI LVL CLOUDINESS WILL CONT TO STREAM NEWD THRU THE CWA LT TGT AND MON. MDL RH FCSTS DEPICT INCRSG LOW LVL MOISTURE...850 MB AND BLW LT TGT MAINLY N AND W OF THE STL METRO AREA. LWR LVL CLOUDINESS ARND 5000 FT HAS ALREADY SPREAD INTO UIN ATTM AND WILL CONT TO INCLUDE LWR LVL CLOUD CEILING IN COU AFTER 09Z AND IN STL AND SUS AFTER 12Z MON...BUT THIS CEILING HGT WILL STILL BE IN THE VFR CATAGORY. NGM MOS GUIDANCE CONTS TO BE TOO LOW WITH THE CIG HGT FCST. GFS MOS LOOKS BETTER BUT STILL MAY BE TOO LOW ON THE CIG HGTS LT TGT AND MON. ETA MOS GUIDANCE IS THE MOST OPTIMISTIC AND MAY BE THE BEST ON THE CIG HGT FCST THIS PD. MDLS ARE INDICATING SOME LGT QPF BY MON EVNG FOR UIN AND COU BUT MAY LEAVE TAFS DRY FOR NOW AS THE BETTER THREAT FOR SIGNIFICANT RAIN OR SHOWERS SHOULD OCCUR N AND W OF THE TAF SITES THRU THE PERIOD. GKS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 270856 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 256 AM CST MON NOV 27 2006 .DISCUSSION... COLD FRONT EXTENDED FROM CENTRAL IA ACROSS NORTHWEST MO INTO THE OK PANHANDLE EARLY THIS MORNING WITH A 26 DEGREE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOUTHEAST NEB AND DOWNTOWN KANSAS CITY. WITH SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT CONTINUING THROUGH WEDNESDAY ACROSS THE AREA, EXPECT THE FRONT TO REMAIN TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA UNTIL LATER WEDNESDAY. THE NAM IS THE FASTEST MODEL WITH THE COLD FRONT BY WEDNESDAY EVENING WITH THE GFS THE SLOWEST. THE UKMET AND EUROPEAN ARE IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE FRONTAL POSTION NEAR A RFD-COU-OKC LINE BY EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING. THE ARCTIC AIR THAT HAS BEEN BOTTLED UP IN CANADA SO FAR THIS SEASON WILL MOVE SOUTH OF THE BORDER THIS WEEK. ARCTIC AIR IS FORECAST TO SETTLE INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. ALL THE MODELS ARE FORECASTING A TREMENDOUS TEMP GRADIENT AT 850 MBS FROM NORTHWEST MO INTO THE BLACK HILLS WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH NEARLY A 30 DEGREE C DROP IN TEMP. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE ACROSS THE AREA EARLY IN THE WEEK. THE STRONGEST MOISTURE CONVERGENCE ACROSS THE AREA IS FORECAST ON WEDNESDAY WHERE THE HIGHEST POPS ARE CURRENTLY FORECAST. THE LATEST RUN OF THE GFS IS MUCH COLDER ACROSS THE AREA LATER THURSDAY THAN THE EUROPEAN RUN. IF THE GFS IS ON TRACK, WILL SEE OUR FIRST SIGNIFICANT SNOW OF THE SEASON ACROSS THE AREA. NOT MANY CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST AS IT WAS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. SCHROEDER && .AVIATION... FOR THE 06Z TAFS...CDFNT EXTDS FM WI SW THRU EXTREME NWRN MO TO THE OK PNHDL. THIS CDFNT WILL SINK SEWD THRU NWRN MO LT TGT...BUT SHOULD REMAIN NW OF THE TAF SITES THRU THE PERIOD. THUS A SLY SFC WND WL CONT AT THE TAF SITES WITH THE LARGE PERSISTANT SFC RDG ACRS THE SERN US. PLENTY OF MID-HI LVL CLOUDINESS WILL CONT TO STREAM NEWD THRU THE CWA LT TGT AND MON. MDL RH FCSTS DEPICT INCRSG LOW LVL MOISTURE...850 MB AND BLW LT TGT MAINLY N AND W OF THE STL METRO AREA. LWR LVL CLOUDINESS ARND 5000 FT HAS ALREADY SPREAD INTO UIN ATTM AND WILL CONT TO INCLUDE LWR LVL CLOUD CEILING IN COU AFTER 09Z AND IN STL AND SUS AFTER 12Z MON...BUT THIS CEILING HGT WILL STILL BE IN THE VFR CATAGORY. NGM MOS GUIDANCE CONTS TO BE TOO LOW WITH THE CIG HGT FCST. GFS MOS LOOKS BETTER BUT STILL MAY BE TOO LOW ON THE CIG HGTS LT TGT AND MON. ETA MOS GUIDANCE IS THE MOST OPTIMISTIC AND MAY BE THE BEST ON THE CIG HGT FCST THIS PD. MDLS ARE INDICATING SOME LGT QPF BY MON EVNG FOR UIN AND COU BUT MAY LEAVE TAFS DRY FOR NOW AS THE BETTER THREAT FOR SIGNIFICANT RAIN OR SHOWERS SHOULD OCCUR N AND W OF THE TAF SITES THRU THE PERIOD. GKS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 271141 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 542 AM CST MON NOV 27 2006 .DISCUSSION... COLD FRONT EXTENDED FROM CENTRAL IA ACROSS NORTHWEST MO INTO THE OK PANHANDLE EARLY THIS MORNING WITH A 26 DEGREE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOUTHEAST NEB AND DOWNTOWN KANSAS CITY. WITH SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT CONTINUING THROUGH WEDNESDAY ACROSS THE AREA, EXPECT THE FRONT TO REMAIN TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA UNTIL LATER WEDNESDAY. THE NAM IS THE FASTEST MODEL WITH THE COLD FRONT BY WEDNESDAY EVENING WITH THE GFS THE SLOWEST. THE UKMET AND EUROPEAN ARE IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE FRONTAL POSTION NEAR A RFD-COU-OKC LINE BY EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING. THE ARCTIC AIR THAT HAS BEEN BOTTLED UP IN CANADA SO FAR THIS SEASON WILL MOVE SOUTH OF THE BORDER THIS WEEK. ARCTIC AIR IS FORECAST TO SETTLE INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. ALL THE MODELS ARE FORECASTING A TREMENDOUS TEMP GRADIENT AT 850 MBS FROM NORTHWEST MO INTO THE BLACK HILLS WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH NEARLY A 30 DEGREE C DROP IN TEMP. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE ACROSS THE AREA EARLY IN THE WEEK. THE STRONGEST MOISTURE CONVERGENCE ACROSS THE AREA IS FORECAST ON WEDNESDAY WHERE THE HIGHEST POPS ARE CURRENTLY FORECAST. THE LATEST RUN OF THE GFS IS MUCH COLDER ACROSS THE AREA LATER THURSDAY THAN THE EUROPEAN RUN. IF THE GFS IS ON TRACK, WILL SEE OUR FIRST SIGNIFICANT SNOW OF THE SEASON ACROSS THE AREA. NOT MANY CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST AS IT WAS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. SCHROEDER && .AVIATION... FOR THE 12Z TAFS...CDFNT EXTDS FM SRN WI SW THRU ERN IA AND INTO NWRN MO...THEN FURTHER SWWD TO THE OK PNHDL. THIS CDFNT WILL REMAIN STALLED OVER THAT AREA TODAY...BEFORE LIFTING BACK NORTH TONIGHT. SO IN THE MEANTIME...ALL TAF SITES TO REMAIN IN THE WARM SECTOR WITH SOUTHERLY WINDS PERSISTING THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD. TRICKY PART WILL BE CLOUDS FOR TAF SITES. CIGS TO REMAIN VFR WITH CU DEVELOPMENT ON THE INCREASE DURING THE DAYTIME HOURS AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE IS ON THE INCREASE AS WELL. WILL NOT SEE MUCH IN THE WAY OF PCPN...BUT KEPT VCNTY RW MENTION FOR KUIN AND KCOU FOR THE EVENING HOURS...WHILE HAVE PROB30 GROUP FROM 06Z TO 12Z FOR KUIN ONLY...AS THEY REMAIN CLOSEST TO THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY. KSTL AND KSUS TO REMAIN DRY. BYRD && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 271734 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1134 AM CST MON NOV 27 2006 .DISCUSSION... COLD FRONT EXTENDED FROM CENTRAL IA ACROSS NORTHWEST MO INTO THE OK PANHANDLE EARLY THIS MORNING WITH A 26 DEGREE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOUTHEAST NEB AND DOWNTOWN KANSAS CITY. WITH SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT CONTINUING THROUGH WEDNESDAY ACROSS THE AREA, EXPECT THE FRONT TO REMAIN TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE FORECAST AREA UNTIL LATER WEDNESDAY. THE NAM IS THE FASTEST MODEL WITH THE COLD FRONT BY WEDNESDAY EVENING WITH THE GFS THE SLOWEST. THE UKMET AND EUROPEAN ARE IN THE MIDDLE WITH THE FRONTAL POSTION NEAR A RFD-COU-OKC LINE BY EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING. THE ARCTIC AIR THAT HAS BEEN BOTTLED UP IN CANADA SO FAR THIS SEASON WILL MOVE SOUTH OF THE BORDER THIS WEEK. ARCTIC AIR IS FORECAST TO SETTLE INTO THE CENTRAL GREAT PLAINS BY EARLY WEDNESDAY. ALL THE MODELS ARE FORECASTING A TREMENDOUS TEMP GRADIENT AT 850 MBS FROM NORTHWEST MO INTO THE BLACK HILLS WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH NEARLY A 30 DEGREE C DROP IN TEMP. LOW LEVEL MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE ACROSS THE AREA EARLY IN THE WEEK. THE STRONGEST MOISTURE CONVERGENCE ACROSS THE AREA IS FORECAST ON WEDNESDAY WHERE THE HIGHEST POPS ARE CURRENTLY FORECAST. THE LATEST RUN OF THE GFS IS MUCH COLDER ACROSS THE AREA LATER THURSDAY THAN THE EUROPEAN RUN. IF THE GFS IS ON TRACK, WILL SEE OUR FIRST SIGNIFICANT SNOW OF THE SEASON ACROSS THE AREA. NOT MANY CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE TO THE PREVIOUS FORECAST AS IT WAS IN VERY GOOD SHAPE. SCHROEDER && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS... SURFACE FRONT OVER NORTHWEST MISSOURI WILL BE PUSHED BACK NORTHWARD BY INCREASING SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW. GUIDANCE STILL SEEMS TO BE OVER-DOING THE LOW LEVEL RELATIVE HUMIDITY FORECASTS...SO STILL THINK WE'LL HAVE VFR CONDITIONS PREVAILING ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH 18Z TUESDAY. THE ONE EXCEPTION WILL BE IN ISOLATED/WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS THAT WILL LIKELY MOVE INTO THE AREA LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUING INTO THE NIGHTTIME HOURS. THINK THE PRIMARY THREAT FOR MARGINAL CONDITIONS WILL BE OVER CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST MISSOURI...BUT AS MENTIONED BEFORE IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE ISOLATED OR WIDELY SCATTERED WITH THE SHOWERS. CARNEY && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 272215 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 415 PM CST MON NOV 27 2006 .DISCUSSION... MODELS ARE CONTG TRENDS THAT BEGAN LATE SAT AND SUN...POINTING TO AN INCRG THRT OF SVR WINTER WX LATE WED NIGHT...AND WITH THIS THRT CONTG THU AND INTO THU NGT. IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE AN ABRUPT AND DRAMATIC END TO THE UNSEASONBLY MILD LATE NOVEMBER WX THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING FOR THE PAST WEEK. AS WE WAIT FOR THIS SYSTEM TO PUSH INTO OUR AREA MILD AMS WL RMN DRAPED ACR THE REGION INTO WED..WITH A GRDL INCR IN POPS FROM W TO E WITH TIME...AND GENL FCST TRENDS THRU TUE NGT RMN UNCHANGED. HWVR MODELS HAVE SLOWED INITIAL PUSH OF SFC CDFNT INTO AREA UNTIL WED NGT...SO IT NOW APRS THAT MOST OF THE CWA WL RMN IN THE WRM AIR DURG THE DAY ON WED AND HV ADJ MAX TEMPS ACCORDINGLY TO GIVE REGION ONE LAST UNSEASONABLY WRM DAY. COLD AIR SHUD BGN TO FILTER INTO AREA WED NGT...WITH A SLOW BUT STEADY DEEPENING OF THIS CHILLY AMS OCRG THU AND INTO THU NGT. THERMAL PROFILES VARY BTWN THE MODELS...WITH THE NAM ALLOWING A QUICKER SWD PUSH TO THE LO LVL COLD AIR AS COMPARED TO THE GFS. MODEL TRENDS HV CERTAINLY BEEN TO SLOW THE SWD PUSH...BUT VRY CONCERNED THAT ONCE THIS VERY COLD AMS BGNS TO MOVE IT WL BE TOUGH TO STOP. FCST SOUNDINGS FROM EITHER MODEL SUGGEST A PD OF FRZG RAIN AND/OR SLEET...WITH A MUCH LONGER PD OF THIS ICY MIX DEPICTED BY THE FASTER NAM FCSTS. ITS PSBL THAT ZR AND IP MAY CAUSE SGFNT ICING MAY OCR OVR NW HALF OF THE CWA DURG THE DAY ON THU...BFR THE COLUMN COOLS ENUF TO CHG THE PCPN TO ALL SNOW DURG THE AFTN AND ERY EVE. STG FORCING CERTAINLY APRS IN THE OFFING...WHICH WL GENERATE MORE THAN ENUF QPF TO CAUSE SERIOUS PROBLEMS IF THE SFC LYR DOES DROP BLO FREEZING. ICY MIX WL CONT TO DROP S INTO SE MO/SE IL THU EVE WITH THE 32F ISOTHERM WITH PCPN CHGG TO ALL SNOW OVR THIS AREA BY ARND MIDNIGHT...WHILE AMS OVR NW HLF OF CWA WL CERTAINLY BE COLD ENUF FOR ALL SNOW BY THIS TIME. AND THIS IS WHEN THE SECOND WHAMMY OF THIS STORM CULD OCR. AS BASE OF TROF BGNS TO LIFT OUT...BOTH THE NAM AND GFS ARE FCSTG A SECOND SWATH OF PCPN...WHICH SHUD BE ALL SNOW...TO DVLP AND MOVE ACR THE AREA. GFS IS MUCH MORE INTS WITH THIS FTR AND ACTUALLY CUTS OFF AN UPR LOW...WHILE NAM IS A BIT LESS ROBUST. EXACT PLACEMENT OF THIS POTENTIAL HVY SNOW BAND WL BE DETERMINED BY INTENSITY OF THE UPR SYS...IF ITS AS STG AS THE GFS HVY SNOW CULD OCR WELL INTO THE COLD AIR...IF NAM VERIFIES SNW BAND CULD SET UP OVR SE MO INTO S IL. OBVIOUSLY...ITS STILL TOO EARLY TO PIN DOWN THE EXACT TRENDS OF THIS STORM SYSTEM...SO ITS A BIT PREMATURE TO ISSUE A WATCH. HWVR...WITH THE POTENTIAL OF SUCH A SERIOUS STORM...AND OCRG AFTER SUCH A MILD SPELL...WILL ISSUE SPS WITH THE AFTN ZN/GRIDS TO HIGHLIGHT AND AMPLIFY THE THREAT. TRUETT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS... SURFACE FRONT OVER NORTHWEST MISSOURI WILL BE PUSHED BACK NORTHWARD BY INCREASING SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW. GUIDANCE STILL SEEMS TO BE OVER-DOING THE LOW LEVEL RELATIVE HUMIDITY FORECASTS...SO STILL THINK WE'LL HAVE VFR CONDITIONS PREVAILING ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH 18Z TUESDAY. THE ONE EXCEPTION WILL BE IN ISOLATED/WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS THAT WILL LIKELY MOVE INTO THE AREA LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUING INTO THE NIGHTTIME HOURS. THINK THE PRIMARY THREAT FOR MARGINAL CONDITIONS WILL BE OVER CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST MISSOURI...BUT AS MENTIONED BEFORE IT WILL MOST LIKELY BE ISOLATED OR WIDELY SCATTERED WITH THE SHOWERS. CARNEY && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 280010 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 610 PM CST MON NOV 27 2006 .DISCUSSION... MODELS ARE CONTG TRENDS THAT BEGAN LATE SAT AND SUN...POINTING TO AN INCRG THRT OF SVR WINTER WX LATE WED NIGHT...AND WITH THIS THRT CONTG THU AND INTO THU NGT. IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE AN ABRUPT AND DRAMATIC END TO THE UNSEASONBLY MILD LATE NOVEMBER WX THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING FOR THE PAST WEEK. AS WE WAIT FOR THIS SYSTEM TO PUSH INTO OUR AREA MILD AMS WL RMN DRAPED ACR THE REGION INTO WED..WITH A GRDL INCR IN POPS FROM W TO E WITH TIME...AND GENL FCST TRENDS THRU TUE NGT RMN UNCHANGED. HWVR MODELS HAVE SLOWED INITIAL PUSH OF SFC CDFNT INTO AREA UNTIL WED NGT...SO IT NOW APRS THAT MOST OF THE CWA WL RMN IN THE WRM AIR DURG THE DAY ON WED AND HV ADJ MAX TEMPS ACCORDINGLY TO GIVE REGION ONE LAST UNSEASONABLY WRM DAY. COLD AIR SHUD BGN TO FILTER INTO AREA WED NGT...WITH A SLOW BUT STEADY DEEPENING OF THIS CHILLY AMS OCRG THU AND INTO THU NGT. THERMAL PROFILES VARY BTWN THE MODELS...WITH THE NAM ALLOWING A QUICKER SWD PUSH TO THE LO LVL COLD AIR AS COMPARED TO THE GFS. MODEL TRENDS HV CERTAINLY BEEN TO SLOW THE SWD PUSH...BUT VRY CONCERNED THAT ONCE THIS VERY COLD AMS BGNS TO MOVE IT WL BE TOUGH TO STOP. FCST SOUNDINGS FROM EITHER MODEL SUGGEST A PD OF FRZG RAIN AND/OR SLEET...WITH A MUCH LONGER PD OF THIS ICY MIX DEPICTED BY THE FASTER NAM FCSTS. ITS PSBL THAT ZR AND IP MAY CAUSE SGFNT ICING MAY OCR OVR NW HALF OF THE CWA DURG THE DAY ON THU...BFR THE COLUMN COOLS ENUF TO CHG THE PCPN TO ALL SNOW DURG THE AFTN AND ERY EVE. STG FORCING CERTAINLY APRS IN THE OFFING...WHICH WL GENERATE MORE THAN ENUF QPF TO CAUSE SERIOUS PROBLEMS IF THE SFC LYR DOES DROP BLO FREEZING. ICY MIX WL CONT TO DROP S INTO SE MO/SE IL THU EVE WITH THE 32F ISOTHERM WITH PCPN CHGG TO ALL SNOW OVR THIS AREA BY ARND MIDNIGHT...WHILE AMS OVR NW HLF OF CWA WL CERTAINLY BE COLD ENUF FOR ALL SNOW BY THIS TIME. AND THIS IS WHEN THE SECOND WHAMMY OF THIS STORM CULD OCR. AS BASE OF TROF BGNS TO LIFT OUT...BOTH THE NAM AND GFS ARE FCSTG A SECOND SWATH OF PCPN...WHICH SHUD BE ALL SNOW...TO DVLP AND MOVE ACR THE AREA. GFS IS MUCH MORE INTS WITH THIS FTR AND ACTUALLY CUTS OFF AN UPR LOW...WHILE NAM IS A BIT LESS ROBUST. EXACT PLACEMENT OF THIS POTENTIAL HVY SNOW BAND WL BE DETERMINED BY INTENSITY OF THE UPR SYS...IF ITS AS STG AS THE GFS HVY SNOW CULD OCR WELL INTO THE COLD AIR...IF NAM VERIFIES SNW BAND CULD SET UP OVR SE MO INTO S IL. OBVIOUSLY...ITS STILL TOO EARLY TO PIN DOWN THE EXACT TRENDS OF THIS STORM SYSTEM...SO ITS A BIT PREMATURE TO ISSUE A WATCH. HWVR...WITH THE POTENTIAL OF SUCH A SERIOUS STORM...AND OCRG AFTER SUCH A MILD SPELL...WILL ISSUE SPS WITH THE AFTN ZN/GRIDS TO HIGHLIGHT AND AMPLIFY THE THREAT. TRUETT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 00Z TAFS...S-SELY SFC WNDS WL CONT OVR THE CWA TGT AND TUE WITH A STG SFC RDG OVR THE ERN US AND A STG CDFNT PUSHING SEWD THRU THE NRN PLAINS. SFC WNDS WILL LIKELY INCRS LTR TGT IN UIN AND COU AS A SWLY LLJ TRANSLATES EWD INTO THE CWA LT TGT. SLY SFC WNDS WILL BE STGR AND GUSTY ON TUE AS THE SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS OVR THE CWA BTWN THE STG ERN US RDG AND APPROACHING STG CDFNT IN THE NRN PLAINS. RADAR CURRENTLY SHOWING SCT SHRA MOVG NEWD THRU THE UIN VCNTY AND WILL INCLUDE A TEMPO GRP OF 5SM -SHRA OVC030 IN THE UIN TAF FOR THE EARLY EVNG HRS. LOOKS LIKE THERE WILL BE MORE SHRA LT TGT AND TUE MRNG IN UIN AND COU AND POSSIBLY IN THE STL METRO AREA PER BOTH NAM AND GFS QPF FCST. MDL RH FCSTS KEEP THE HIGH BNDRY LYR RH N AND W OF THE TAF SITES...ALTHOUGH THE PREVAILING CEILING HGTS SHOULD LWR TGT INTO TUE AT THE TAF SITES. WILL KEEP THE PREVAILING CIG HGTS ABV MVFR AND LEAN TWD THE MORE OPTIMISTIC CEILING HGT FCST OF THE ETA MOS AS THE GFS AND ESPECIALLY THE NGM MOS CIG HGT FCST CONT TO APR TOO LOW. GKS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 280514 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1114 PM CST MON NOV 27 2006 .DISCUSSION... MODELS ARE CONTG TRENDS THAT BEGAN LATE SAT AND SUN...POINTING TO AN INCRG THRT OF SVR WINTER WX LATE WED NIGHT...AND WITH THIS THRT CONTG THU AND INTO THU NGT. IT CERTAINLY LOOKS LIKE AN ABRUPT AND DRAMATIC END TO THE UNSEASONBLY MILD LATE NOVEMBER WX THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING FOR THE PAST WEEK. AS WE WAIT FOR THIS SYSTEM TO PUSH INTO OUR AREA MILD AMS WL RMN DRAPED ACR THE REGION INTO WED..WITH A GRDL INCR IN POPS FROM W TO E WITH TIME...AND GENL FCST TRENDS THRU TUE NGT RMN UNCHANGED. HWVR MODELS HAVE SLOWED INITIAL PUSH OF SFC CDFNT INTO AREA UNTIL WED NGT...SO IT NOW APRS THAT MOST OF THE CWA WL RMN IN THE WRM AIR DURG THE DAY ON WED AND HV ADJ MAX TEMPS ACCORDINGLY TO GIVE REGION ONE LAST UNSEASONABLY WRM DAY. COLD AIR SHUD BGN TO FILTER INTO AREA WED NGT...WITH A SLOW BUT STEADY DEEPENING OF THIS CHILLY AMS OCRG THU AND INTO THU NGT. THERMAL PROFILES VARY BTWN THE MODELS...WITH THE NAM ALLOWING A QUICKER SWD PUSH TO THE LO LVL COLD AIR AS COMPARED TO THE GFS. MODEL TRENDS HV CERTAINLY BEEN TO SLOW THE SWD PUSH...BUT VRY CONCERNED THAT ONCE THIS VERY COLD AMS BGNS TO MOVE IT WL BE TOUGH TO STOP. FCST SOUNDINGS FROM EITHER MODEL SUGGEST A PD OF FRZG RAIN AND/OR SLEET...WITH A MUCH LONGER PD OF THIS ICY MIX DEPICTED BY THE FASTER NAM FCSTS. ITS PSBL THAT ZR AND IP MAY CAUSE SGFNT ICING MAY OCR OVR NW HALF OF THE CWA DURG THE DAY ON THU...BFR THE COLUMN COOLS ENUF TO CHG THE PCPN TO ALL SNOW DURG THE AFTN AND ERY EVE. STG FORCING CERTAINLY APRS IN THE OFFING...WHICH WL GENERATE MORE THAN ENUF QPF TO CAUSE SERIOUS PROBLEMS IF THE SFC LYR DOES DROP BLO FREEZING. ICY MIX WL CONT TO DROP S INTO SE MO/SE IL THU EVE WITH THE 32F ISOTHERM WITH PCPN CHGG TO ALL SNOW OVR THIS AREA BY ARND MIDNIGHT...WHILE AMS OVR NW HLF OF CWA WL CERTAINLY BE COLD ENUF FOR ALL SNOW BY THIS TIME. AND THIS IS WHEN THE SECOND WHAMMY OF THIS STORM CULD OCR. AS BASE OF TROF BGNS TO LIFT OUT...BOTH THE NAM AND GFS ARE FCSTG A SECOND SWATH OF PCPN...WHICH SHUD BE ALL SNOW...TO DVLP AND MOVE ACR THE AREA. GFS IS MUCH MORE INTS WITH THIS FTR AND ACTUALLY CUTS OFF AN UPR LOW...WHILE NAM IS A BIT LESS ROBUST. EXACT PLACEMENT OF THIS POTENTIAL HVY SNOW BAND WL BE DETERMINED BY INTENSITY OF THE UPR SYS...IF ITS AS STG AS THE GFS HVY SNOW CULD OCR WELL INTO THE COLD AIR...IF NAM VERIFIES SNW BAND CULD SET UP OVR SE MO INTO S IL. OBVIOUSLY...ITS STILL TOO EARLY TO PIN DOWN THE EXACT TRENDS OF THIS STORM SYSTEM...SO ITS A BIT PREMATURE TO ISSUE A WATCH. HWVR...WITH THE POTENTIAL OF SUCH A SERIOUS STORM...AND OCRG AFTER SUCH A MILD SPELL...WILL ISSUE SPS WITH THE AFTN ZN/GRIDS TO HIGHLIGHT AND AMPLIFY THE THREAT. TRUETT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 06Z TAFS...S-SELY SFC WNDS WL CONT OVR THE CWA LT TGT AND TUE WITH A STG SFC RDG OVR THE ERN US AND A STG CDFNT PUSHING SEWD THRU THE NRN PLAINS. SFC WNDS WILL LIKELY INCRS LT TGT IN UIN AND COU AS A SWLY LLJ TRANSLATES EWD INTO THE CWA LT TGT. SLY SFC WNDS WILL BE STGR AND GUSTY ON TUE AS THE SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS OVR THE CWA BTWN THE STG ERN US RDG AND APPROACHING STG CDFNT IN THE NRN PLAINS. RADAR CURRENTLY SHOWING SCT LGT SHRA ACTIVITY BTWN COU AND UIN BUT THE HEAVIER AND MORE WIDESPREAD SHOWERS WILL LIKELY REMAIN N AND W OF UIN AND COU LT TGT. MAY MENTION A TEMPO GRP WITH LGT SHRA LT TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG IN UIN AND COU AND POSSIBLY IN THE STL METRO AREA TUE MRNG AS BOTH NAM AND GFS MDLS HAVE QPF FCST LT TGT AND TUE MRNG MAINLY N AND W OF STL. MDL RH FCSTS KEEP THE HIGH BNDRY LYR RH N AND W OF THE TAF SITES LT TGT...ALTHOUGH THE PREVAILING CEILING HGTS SHOULD LWR LT TGT INTO TUE AT THE TAF SITES. WILL KEEP THE PREVAILING CIG HGTS ABV MVFR AND LEAN TWD THE MORE OPTIMISTIC CEILING HGT FCST OF THE ETA MOS AS THE GFS AND ESPECIALLY THE NGM MOS CIG HGT FCST CONT TO APR TOO LOW. MDL TIME HGT SECTIONS OF RH SHOW PLENTY OF RH ARND 700 MB LT TGT AND TUE MRNG...THEN INCRSG BNDRY LYR RH TUE EVNG. GKS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 280902 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 302 AM CST TUE NOV 28 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM TO AFFECT REGION THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT... THE UNSEASONABLY WARM WEATHER OF LATE WILL BE REPLACED WITH MORE WINTER LIKE TEMPERATURES AS A POWERFUL COLD FRONT IS POISED TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. INITIALLY THE COLD AIR WILL BE SHALLOW BEHIND THE FRONT...LEADING TO PRECIPITATION TYPE ISSUES AS MODEL GUIDANCE DEPICTS QUITE A BIT OF POSTFRONTAL QPF. INITIALLY A FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET MIXTURE WILL OCCUR...BUT AS THE ARCTIC AIR MASS BUILDS ACROSS THE REGION THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING...THE WINTRY MIX WILL TURN TO SNOW FROM WEST TO EAST AS A DEFORMATION ZONE SETS UP ACROSS THE REGION. SIGNIFICANT ICE AND SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL OCCUR WITH THIS STORM SYSTEM...THE ONLY REAL QUESTION IS EXACTLY WHERE? CWA TO REMAIN IN WARM SECTOR AND SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WITH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURE REGIME CONTINUING. GIVEN WARM CONVEYOR BELT IS ALREADY WELL ESTABILISHED WITH GULF WIDE OPEN...ANY SHORTWAVE RIPPLING ALONG WILL CAUSE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP. SIMILAR TO WHAT IS OCCURRING EARLY THIS MORNING. SURE THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN THE EXACT TIMING OF THE FRONT AND DEPTH OF COLD AIR BETWEEN THE GFS AND NAM...BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT IN A 48HR MODEL FORECAST. THE BOTTOM LINE IS...BOTH MODELS REVEAL THE POTENTIAL FOR A SIGNIFICANT ICING EVENT ON THURSDAY FOLLOWED BY A CLASSIC HEAVY SNOW SCENARIO FOR THURSDAY NIGHT AS A WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY AND MOVES SOUTH AND THEN EAST OF THE CWA. THE DETAILS OF THIS FORECAST CLOSELY FOLLOW THE NAM...GIVEN ITS ABILITY TO CAPTURE AND FORECAST THE THERMODYNAMIC STRUCTURE OF THE THOSE LOWEST AND MOST CRITICAL LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE. PLAN ON UPDATING THE SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT...AND INCLUDE STRONG WORDING IN THE HWO THIS MORNING. BEING AS SYSTEM WILL NOT AFFECT THE CWA UNTIL 5TH AND 6TH PERIOD...FEEL IT IS A LITTLE PREMATURE TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH CVKING && .AVIATION... FOR THE 06Z TAFS...S-SELY SFC WNDS WL CONT OVR THE CWA LT TGT AND TUE WITH A STG SFC RDG OVR THE ERN US AND A STG CDFNT PUSHING SEWD THRU THE NRN PLAINS. SFC WNDS WILL LIKELY INCRS LT TGT IN UIN AND COU AS A SWLY LLJ TRANSLATES EWD INTO THE CWA LT TGT. SLY SFC WNDS WILL BE STGR AND GUSTY ON TUE AS THE SFC PRESSURE GRADIENT TIGHTENS OVR THE CWA BTWN THE STG ERN US RDG AND APPROACHING STG CDFNT IN THE NRN PLAINS. RADAR CURRENTLY SHOWING SCT LGT SHRA ACTIVITY BTWN COU AND UIN BUT THE HEAVIER AND MORE WIDESPREAD SHOWERS WILL LIKELY REMAIN N AND W OF UIN AND COU LT TGT. MAY MENTION A TEMPO GRP WITH LGT SHRA LT TGT AND EARLY TUE MRNG IN UIN AND COU AND POSSIBLY IN THE STL METRO AREA TUE MRNG AS BOTH NAM AND GFS MDLS HAVE QPF FCST LT TGT AND TUE MRNG MAINLY N AND W OF STL. MDL RH FCSTS KEEP THE HIGH BNDRY LYR RH N AND W OF THE TAF SITES LT TGT...ALTHOUGH THE PREVAILING CEILING HGTS SHOULD LWR LT TGT INTO TUE AT THE TAF SITES. WILL KEEP THE PREVAILING CIG HGTS ABV MVFR AND LEAN TWD THE MORE OPTIMISTIC CEILING HGT FCST OF THE ETA MOS AS THE GFS AND ESPECIALLY THE NGM MOS CIG HGT FCST CONT TO APR TOO LOW. MDL TIME HGT SECTIONS OF RH SHOW PLENTY OF RH ARND 700 MB LT TGT AND TUE MRNG...THEN INCRSG BNDRY LYR RH TUE EVNG. GKS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 281213 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 600 AM CST TUE NOV 28 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM TO AFFECT REGION THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT... THE UNSEASONABLY WARM WEATHER OF LATE WILL BE REPLACED WITH MORE WINTER LIKE TEMPERATURES AS A POWERFUL COLD FRONT IS POISED TO MOVE ACROSS THE REGION WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY. INITIALLY THE COLD AIR WILL BE SHALLOW BEHIND THE FRONT...LEADING TO PRECIPITATION TYPE ISSUES AS MODEL GUIDANCE DEPICTS QUITE A BIT OF POSTFRONTAL QPF. INITIALLY A FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET MIXTURE WILL OCCUR...BUT AS THE ARCTIC AIR MASS BUILDS ACROSS THE REGION THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING...THE WINTRY MIX WILL TURN TO SNOW FROM WEST TO EAST AS A DEFORMATION ZONE SETS UP ACROSS THE REGION. SIGNIFICANT ICE AND SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL OCCUR WITH THIS STORM SYSTEM...THE ONLY REAL QUESTION IS EXACTLY WHERE? CWA TO REMAIN IN WARM SECTOR AND SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WITH ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURE REGIME CONTINUING. GIVEN WARM CONVEYOR BELT IS ALREADY WELL ESTABILISHED WITH GULF WIDE OPEN...ANY SHORTWAVE RIPPLING ALONG WILL CAUSE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP. SIMILAR TO WHAT IS OCCURRING EARLY THIS MORNING. SURE THERE ARE DIFFERENCES IN THE EXACT TIMING OF THE FRONT AND DEPTH OF COLD AIR BETWEEN THE GFS AND NAM...BUT I WOULD EXPECT THAT IN A 48HR MODEL FORECAST. THE BOTTOM LINE IS...BOTH MODELS REVEAL THE POTENTIAL FOR A SIGNIFICANT ICING EVENT ON THURSDAY FOLLOWED BY A CLASSIC HEAVY SNOW SCENARIO FOR THURSDAY NIGHT AS A WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE DEVELOPS ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY AND MOVES SOUTH AND THEN EAST OF THE CWA. THE DETAILS OF THIS FORECAST CLOSELY FOLLOW THE NAM...GIVEN ITS ABILITY TO CAPTURE AND FORECAST THE THERMODYNAMIC STRUCTURE OF THE THOSE LOWEST AND MOST CRITICAL LAYERS OF THE ATMOSPHERE. PLAN ON UPDATING THE SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT...AND INCLUDE STRONG WORDING IN THE HWO THIS MORNING. BEING AS SYSTEM WILL NOT AFFECT THE CWA UNTIL 5TH AND 6TH PERIOD...FEEL IT IS A LITTLE PREMATURE TO ISSUE A WINTER STORM WATCH CVKING && .AVIATION... FOR THE 12Z TAFS... LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY WINDS CONTINUE ACROSS THE AREA THIS MORNING AROUND HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE EASTERN U.S. THIS PATTERN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH 12Z WEDNESDAY. AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT IS FORECAST TO EXTEND FROM CENTRAL WI ACROSS NORTHWEST MO AT THAT TIME. VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE DAY TODAY BEFORE LOWERING TO MVFR CATEGORY TONIGHT. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA TODAY AND TONIGHT. && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...NONE. IL...NONE. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 282346 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 546 PM CST TUE NOV 28 2006 .DISCUSSION... MODEL SOLNS ARE STILL POINTING TO ADVERSE WINTER WEATHER FOR OUR AREA LATE WED THRU THU NGT... BUT TRYING TO PIN DOWN EXACT TRENDS CONTS TO BE VRY FRUSTRATING. SHORT RANGE MODEL SOLNS HV COME TO SOME CONSENSUS ABT THE POSITION/TIMING OF THE ARCTIC FNT AND THE INITIAL SURGE OF THE COLD AIR...BUT OTHER DETAILS FOR THIS EVENT ARE STILL ALL OVER THE PLACE. HOPEFULLY...WITH MORE RELIABLE UA DATA FROM THE SYSTEM GETTING INTO THE 00Z RUNS THE SPECIFICS WL BEGIN TO COME TOGETHER. WE STILL HAVE 18-36 HOURS OF UNSEASONABLY MILD WX BFR THE LEADING EDGE OF THE COLD AIR BGNS TO IMPACT THE REGION. AMS TNGT RMNS WKLY UNSTBL BUT THERE APRS TO BE LTL IN THE WAY OF FORCING...SO HV CONTD ONLY LO POPS ACR AREA. POPS SHUD JUMP INTO THE LIKELY CAT ON WED OVR NW HLF OF FA WHERE FNT WL INTERACT WITH THE INCRG UNSTBL AMS. MODELS OVR THE PAST FEW DAYS HV REALLY BEEN LIMITING INSTABILITY ALG/AHD OF FNT. NAM IS NOW FCSTG MUCAPES INTO THE 1000-1500 J/KG RANGE BY WED AFTN...AND THERE IS CERTAINLY A WINDOW OF SVRWX POTENTIAL IN THIS RLTVLY LO CAPE/HI SHEAR COOL SEASON ENVIRONMENT. WINTRY MIX SHUD DVLP LATE WED NGT OVR N AREAS AS TEMPS FALL BLO FRZG...WITH THE ICING AREA ADV S ON THU WITH THE 32 DEGREE ISOTHERM. IN MOST AREAS...THE POST FRONTAL RAIN/DRZL SHUD FIRST CHG TO FRZG RAIN...THEN BCM MIXED WITH SLEET..BFR CHGG TO ALL SNOW. AMT OF PCPN IN THE COLDER AIR AND PCPN TYPE IS THE FIRST POINT OF CONTENTION IN THE MODEL SOLNS. NAM IS XTRMLY BULLISH WITH THE PCPN IN THE COLD AIR...WHILE THE GFS IS NOW RPDLY SHUTTING DOWN THE PCPN SHORTLY AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE COLD AIR. DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE GFS...WHICH HAD ALSO BEEN ROBUST WITH THE PCPN IN THE COLD AIR...HAS SUDDENLY "GONE DRY" ON THE 06Z AND 12Z RUNS...BUT I AM SUSPICIOUS OF THIS GIVEN THE WAY THE TROF IS LAGGING THE FRONT. THE SECOND PROBLEM IS HOW STG THE UPR SYS WL BE WHEN IT LIFTS OUT. AGAIN...THE GFS AS WKND THIS FTR SINCE THE RUNS OF YSTDA...WHILE THE NAM...ECMWF...AND UKMET ARE ALL MORE INTS WITH LO. MORE INTS SOLN WULD SUGGEST A SWATH OF POTENTIALL HVY SNW DVLPG...AFTER THE INITIAL SHOT OF ICING...SOMEWHERE OVR THE SE 2/3 OF THE FA THU AFTN AND THU NGT. AFT MUCH ANALYSIS...OPTED TO LEAN TWD THE NAM SOLNS...ALBEIT WITH SMWHAT LESS QPF...AND WITH A BIT LONGER PD OF MIXED PCPN. IF THE MORE AMPLIFIED SOLN VERIFIES...WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE MODEL CONSENSUS...WRM AIR ABV SUB FREEZING SFC AIR SHUD HANG ON A BIT LONGER CAUSING THE ZR/IP TO LINGER. AND LEANING TWD THE NAM AND MORE AMPLIFIED SOLNS ALSO MEANS A BTR THRT OF SGFNT SNW ACCUM AFT THE AMS COOLS ENUF TO SUPPORT ALL SNOW. ONE VRY DISTURBING ASPECT OF THE MODEL OUTPUT IS THAT NAM...AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE GFS...ARE SUGGESTING SOME JET COUPLING BTWN WIND MAX DVLPG OVR AR AND JET CORE OVR UPR GTLKS...ARND 00Z FRI. VRY STG DIVERGENCE IS BULLSEYED OVR THE CWA...WITH 85H TEMPS OF -2 TO -5...WHICH ARE OFTEN INDICATIVE OF HVY SNOW...NR THE I-44 AND I-70 CORRIDORS. ALTHO THERE IS STILL MUCH UNCERTAINTY...BLV THAT THE THREAT OF A SGFNT WINTER STORM IS HIGH ENUF THAT ISSUANCE OF A WINTER STORM WATCH IS WARRANTED...AND THIS WAS ISSUED SHORTLY AFTER 4 PM. PCPN SHUD WIND DOWN LTR THU NGT AS UPR SYSTEM ROLLS INTO OHIO VLY. FRIDAY AND THE START OF THE WEEKEND WL BE CHILLY BUT DRY AS HEART OF THE COLD AIR MOVES THROUGH...THEN EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO SLOWLY MODERATE HEADING INTO THE FIRST PART OF THE NEW WEEK. TRUETT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS... GUIDANCE HAS BEEN OVER-DOING THE LOW LEVEL RELATIVE HUMIDITY A BIT THE LAST FEW DAYS...BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE THE DAY TO GO AHEAD AND START MARGINAL CIGS IN THE FORECAST. THERE'S A PRETTY LARGE AREA OF MARGINAL AND INSTRUMENT CONDITIONS SOUTH OF THE AREA IN OKLAHOMA AND ARKANSAS...AND INCREASING FLOW AHEAD OF THE WEDNESDAY/THURSDAY FROPA SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO FINALLY DRAG THOSE CIGS NORTHWARD INTO OUR AREA. ALREADY SEEING MARGINAL CONDITIONS IN PARTS OF WESTERN MISSOURI...SO THIS LOOKS LIKE A DECENT ASSUMPTION. ISOLATED/WIDELY SCATTERED SHOWERS WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING...THEN COVERAGE WILL PROBABLY INCREASE AS THE COLD FRONT APPROACHES THE AREA. CARNEY && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE-CALLAWAY-COLE-CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN- GASCONADE-IRON-JEFFERSON-LINCOLN-MADISON-MONITEAU- MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-REYNOLDS-ST. CHARLES-ST. FRANCOIS-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-STE. GENEVIEVE-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR BOND IL-CALHOUN IL-CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MARION IL-MONROE IL- MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-RANDOLPH IL-ST. CLAIR IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 290006 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 608 PM CST TUE NOV 28 2006 .DISCUSSION... MODEL SOLNS ARE STILL POINTING TO ADVERSE WINTER WEATHER FOR OUR AREA LATE WED THRU THU NGT... BUT TRYING TO PIN DOWN EXACT TRENDS CONTS TO BE VRY FRUSTRATING. SHORT RANGE MODEL SOLNS HV COME TO SOME CONSENSUS ABT THE POSITION/TIMING OF THE ARCTIC FNT AND THE INITIAL SURGE OF THE COLD AIR...BUT OTHER DETAILS FOR THIS EVENT ARE STILL ALL OVER THE PLACE. HOPEFULLY...WITH MORE RELIABLE UA DATA FROM THE SYSTEM GETTING INTO THE 00Z RUNS THE SPECIFICS WL BEGIN TO COME TOGETHER. WE STILL HAVE 18-36 HOURS OF UNSEASONABLY MILD WX BFR THE LEADING EDGE OF THE COLD AIR BGNS TO IMPACT THE REGION. AMS TNGT RMNS WKLY UNSTBL BUT THERE APRS TO BE LTL IN THE WAY OF FORCING...SO HV CONTD ONLY LO POPS ACR AREA. POPS SHUD JUMP INTO THE LIKELY CAT ON WED OVR NW HLF OF FA WHERE FNT WL INTERACT WITH THE INCRG UNSTBL AMS. MODELS OVR THE PAST FEW DAYS HV REALLY BEEN LIMITING INSTABILITY ALG/AHD OF FNT. NAM IS NOW FCSTG MUCAPES INTO THE 1000-1500 J/KG RANGE BY WED AFTN...AND THERE IS CERTAINLY A WINDOW OF SVRWX POTENTIAL IN THIS RLTVLY LO CAPE/HI SHEAR COOL SEASON ENVIRONMENT. WINTRY MIX SHUD DVLP LATE WED NGT OVR N AREAS AS TEMPS FALL BLO FRZG...WITH THE ICING AREA ADV S ON THU WITH THE 32 DEGREE ISOTHERM. IN MOST AREAS...THE POST FRONTAL RAIN/DRZL SHUD FIRST CHG TO FRZG RAIN...THEN BCM MIXED WITH SLEET..BFR CHGG TO ALL SNOW. AMT OF PCPN IN THE COLDER AIR AND PCPN TYPE IS THE FIRST POINT OF CONTENTION IN THE MODEL SOLNS. NAM IS XTRMLY BULLISH WITH THE PCPN IN THE COLD AIR...WHILE THE GFS IS NOW RPDLY SHUTTING DOWN THE PCPN SHORTLY AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE COLD AIR. DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE GFS...WHICH HAD ALSO BEEN ROBUST WITH THE PCPN IN THE COLD AIR...HAS SUDDENLY "GONE DRY" ON THE 06Z AND 12Z RUNS...BUT I AM SUSPICIOUS OF THIS GIVEN THE WAY THE TROF IS LAGGING THE FRONT. THE SECOND PROBLEM IS HOW STG THE UPR SYS WL BE WHEN IT LIFTS OUT. AGAIN...THE GFS AS WKND THIS FTR SINCE THE RUNS OF YSTDA...WHILE THE NAM...ECMWF...AND UKMET ARE ALL MORE INTS WITH LO. MORE INTS SOLN WULD SUGGEST A SWATH OF POTENTIALL HVY SNW DVLPG...AFTER THE INITIAL SHOT OF ICING...SOMEWHERE OVR THE SE 2/3 OF THE FA THU AFTN AND THU NGT. AFT MUCH ANALYSIS...OPTED TO LEAN TWD THE NAM SOLNS...ALBEIT WITH SMWHAT LESS QPF...AND WITH A BIT LONGER PD OF MIXED PCPN. IF THE MORE AMPLIFIED SOLN VERIFIES...WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE MODEL CONSENSUS...WRM AIR ABV SUB FREEZING SFC AIR SHUD HANG ON A BIT LONGER CAUSING THE ZR/IP TO LINGER. AND LEANING TWD THE NAM AND MORE AMPLIFIED SOLNS ALSO MEANS A BTR THRT OF SGFNT SNW ACCUM AFT THE AMS COOLS ENUF TO SUPPORT ALL SNOW. ONE VRY DISTURBING ASPECT OF THE MODEL OUTPUT IS THAT NAM...AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE GFS...ARE SUGGESTING SOME JET COUPLING BTWN WIND MAX DVLPG OVR AR AND JET CORE OVR UPR GTLKS...ARND 00Z FRI. VRY STG DIVERGENCE IS BULLSEYED OVR THE CWA...WITH 85H TEMPS OF -2 TO -5...WHICH ARE OFTEN INDICATIVE OF HVY SNOW...NR THE I-44 AND I-70 CORRIDORS. ALTHO THERE IS STILL MUCH UNCERTAINTY...BLV THAT THE THREAT OF A SGFNT WINTER STORM IS HIGH ENUF THAT ISSUANCE OF A WINTER STORM WATCH IS WARRANTED...AND THIS WAS ISSUED SHORTLY AFTER 4 PM. PCPN SHUD WIND DOWN LTR THU NGT AS UPR SYSTEM ROLLS INTO OHIO VLY. FRIDAY AND THE START OF THE WEEKEND WL BE CHILLY BUT DRY AS HEART OF THE COLD AIR MOVES THROUGH...THEN EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO SLOWLY MODERATE HEADING INTO THE FIRST PART OF THE NEW WEEK. TRUETT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 00Z TAFS... APPROACHING COLD FRONT REMAINS WELL TO THE WEST OF THE CWA AS OF 23Z...SO TAF SITES TO BE IN WARM SECTOR FOR MOST OF FORECAST PERIOD. AS FOR CIGS...THEY WILL REMAIN MVFR TIL FRONTAL PASSAGE. WENT WITH NAM TIMING WITH FRONT MOVING THRU KUIN BY 19Z AND THRU KCOU BY 22Z...WHILE FRONT WILL NOT MOVE THRU KSUS/KSTL TIL AFTER 00Z THU. BEHIND FRONT WILL SEE CIGS DROP TO IFR AT TIMES. PCPN TO REMAIN RATHER SCATTERED IN NATURE TIL MIDDAY ON WED...WITH CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY PICKING UP AHEAD OF COLD FRONT...WITH BEST CHANCES OF TRWS FOR SITES ALONG I-70 CORRIDOR...KCOU BY 16Z AND KSUS/KSTL BY 20Z. BYRD && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE-CALLAWAY-COLE-CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN- GASCONADE-IRON-JEFFERSON-LINCOLN-MADISON-MONITEAU- MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-REYNOLDS-ST. CHARLES-ST. FRANCOIS-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-STE. GENEVIEVE-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR BOND IL-CALHOUN IL-CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MARION IL-MONROE IL- MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-RANDOLPH IL-ST. CLAIR IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 290505 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1106 PM CST TUE NOV 28 2006 .DISCUSSION... MODEL SOLNS ARE STILL POINTING TO ADVERSE WINTER WEATHER FOR OUR AREA LATE WED THRU THU NGT... BUT TRYING TO PIN DOWN EXACT TRENDS CONTS TO BE VRY FRUSTRATING. SHORT RANGE MODEL SOLNS HV COME TO SOME CONSENSUS ABT THE POSITION/TIMING OF THE ARCTIC FNT AND THE INITIAL SURGE OF THE COLD AIR...BUT OTHER DETAILS FOR THIS EVENT ARE STILL ALL OVER THE PLACE. HOPEFULLY...WITH MORE RELIABLE UA DATA FROM THE SYSTEM GETTING INTO THE 00Z RUNS THE SPECIFICS WL BEGIN TO COME TOGETHER. WE STILL HAVE 18-36 HOURS OF UNSEASONABLY MILD WX BFR THE LEADING EDGE OF THE COLD AIR BGNS TO IMPACT THE REGION. AMS TNGT RMNS WKLY UNSTBL BUT THERE APRS TO BE LTL IN THE WAY OF FORCING...SO HV CONTD ONLY LO POPS ACR AREA. POPS SHUD JUMP INTO THE LIKELY CAT ON WED OVR NW HLF OF FA WHERE FNT WL INTERACT WITH THE INCRG UNSTBL AMS. MODELS OVR THE PAST FEW DAYS HV REALLY BEEN LIMITING INSTABILITY ALG/AHD OF FNT. NAM IS NOW FCSTG MUCAPES INTO THE 1000-1500 J/KG RANGE BY WED AFTN...AND THERE IS CERTAINLY A WINDOW OF SVRWX POTENTIAL IN THIS RLTVLY LO CAPE/HI SHEAR COOL SEASON ENVIRONMENT. WINTRY MIX SHUD DVLP LATE WED NGT OVR N AREAS AS TEMPS FALL BLO FRZG...WITH THE ICING AREA ADV S ON THU WITH THE 32 DEGREE ISOTHERM. IN MOST AREAS...THE POST FRONTAL RAIN/DRZL SHUD FIRST CHG TO FRZG RAIN...THEN BCM MIXED WITH SLEET..BFR CHGG TO ALL SNOW. AMT OF PCPN IN THE COLDER AIR AND PCPN TYPE IS THE FIRST POINT OF CONTENTION IN THE MODEL SOLNS. NAM IS XTRMLY BULLISH WITH THE PCPN IN THE COLD AIR...WHILE THE GFS IS NOW RPDLY SHUTTING DOWN THE PCPN SHORTLY AFTER THE ARRIVAL OF THE COLD AIR. DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE GFS...WHICH HAD ALSO BEEN ROBUST WITH THE PCPN IN THE COLD AIR...HAS SUDDENLY "GONE DRY" ON THE 06Z AND 12Z RUNS...BUT I AM SUSPICIOUS OF THIS GIVEN THE WAY THE TROF IS LAGGING THE FRONT. THE SECOND PROBLEM IS HOW STG THE UPR SYS WL BE WHEN IT LIFTS OUT. AGAIN...THE GFS AS WKND THIS FTR SINCE THE RUNS OF YSTDA...WHILE THE NAM...ECMWF...AND UKMET ARE ALL MORE INTS WITH LO. MORE INTS SOLN WULD SUGGEST A SWATH OF POTENTIALL HVY SNW DVLPG...AFTER THE INITIAL SHOT OF ICING...SOMEWHERE OVR THE SE 2/3 OF THE FA THU AFTN AND THU NGT. AFT MUCH ANALYSIS...OPTED TO LEAN TWD THE NAM SOLNS...ALBEIT WITH SMWHAT LESS QPF...AND WITH A BIT LONGER PD OF MIXED PCPN. IF THE MORE AMPLIFIED SOLN VERIFIES...WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE MODEL CONSENSUS...WRM AIR ABV SUB FREEZING SFC AIR SHUD HANG ON A BIT LONGER CAUSING THE ZR/IP TO LINGER. AND LEANING TWD THE NAM AND MORE AMPLIFIED SOLNS ALSO MEANS A BTR THRT OF SGFNT SNW ACCUM AFT THE AMS COOLS ENUF TO SUPPORT ALL SNOW. ONE VRY DISTURBING ASPECT OF THE MODEL OUTPUT IS THAT NAM...AND TO A LESSER EXTENT THE GFS...ARE SUGGESTING SOME JET COUPLING BTWN WIND MAX DVLPG OVR AR AND JET CORE OVR UPR GTLKS...ARND 00Z FRI. VRY STG DIVERGENCE IS BULLSEYED OVR THE CWA...WITH 85H TEMPS OF -2 TO -5...WHICH ARE OFTEN INDICATIVE OF HVY SNOW...NR THE I-44 AND I-70 CORRIDORS. ALTHO THERE IS STILL MUCH UNCERTAINTY...BLV THAT THE THREAT OF A SGFNT WINTER STORM IS HIGH ENUF THAT ISSUANCE OF A WINTER STORM WATCH IS WARRANTED...AND THIS WAS ISSUED SHORTLY AFTER 4 PM. PCPN SHUD WIND DOWN LTR THU NGT AS UPR SYSTEM ROLLS INTO OHIO VLY. FRIDAY AND THE START OF THE WEEKEND WL BE CHILLY BUT DRY AS HEART OF THE COLD AIR MOVES THROUGH...THEN EXPECT TEMPERATURES TO SLOWLY MODERATE HEADING INTO THE FIRST PART OF THE NEW WEEK. TRUETT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 06Z TAFS... COLD FRONT EXTENDS FROM WRN WI THRU ERN IA AND INTO NWRN MO...THEN INTO KS AS OF 04Z. HOWEVER...NAM CONTINUES TO SLOW ITS PROGRESS TO THE E...KEEPING IT WEST OF KUIN AND KCOU TIL THE AFTERNOON HOURS ON WED. WILL TIME FRONT INTO KUIN BY 22Z AND KCOU BY 23Z. FRONT SHOULD STAY JUST W OF KSUS/KSTL TIL AFTER 06Z THU. AS FOR CIGS...THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE...WITH KCOU AND KUIN CLEAR AT THE MOMENT. BUT WITH FRONT APPROACHING THE AREA...SHOULD SEE CU/SC CONT TO DEVELOP AND SPREAD EASTWARD OVERNIGHT...WITH MVFR CIG RETURNING BETWEEN 08Z AND 09Z. IN THE MEANTIME...SC HAS REMAINED OVER ERN MO WITH LOW MVFR CIGS OVER KSUS/KSTL. WILL RAISE CIGS TO HIGH MVFR DURING THE MORNING HOURS ON WED FOR THESE FORECAST SITES WITH DAYTIME HEATING. BEHIND FRONT WILL SEE CIGS DROP TO IFR AT TIMES. PCPN TO REMAIN RATHER SCATTERED IN NATURE TIL MIDDAY ON WED...WITH CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY PICKING UP AHEAD OF COLD FRONT...WITH BEST CHANCES OF TRWS FOR SITES ALONG I-70 CORRIDOR...KCOU BY 20Z AND KSUS/KSTL BY 22Z. BYRD && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE-CALLAWAY-COLE-CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN- GASCONADE-IRON-JEFFERSON-LINCOLN-MADISON-MONITEAU- MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-REYNOLDS-ST. CHARLES-ST. FRANCOIS-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-STE. GENEVIEVE-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR BOND IL-CALHOUN IL-CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MARION IL-MONROE IL- MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-RANDOLPH IL-ST. CLAIR IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 290858 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 258 AM CST WED NOV 29 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL BEGIN TO AFFECT REGION TONIGHT... MODEL GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT ON LARGE SCALE FEATURES CONCERNING THE COLD FRONT AND DEVELOPING WINTER STORM SCENARIO...BUT STILL EXHIBIT SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE DETAILS. COLD FRONT CURRENTLY EXTENDS FROM NEAR PLEASANT HILL TO KIRKSVILLE WITH SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. STILL BELIEVE NAM IS BEST MODEL TO FOLLOW WHEN FOCUSING ON THERMODYNAMICS OF THE LOWEST LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND HAVE THEREFORE FOLLOWED ITS TIMING OF THE FRONT AND FREEZING LINE ACROSS THE CWA AS WELL AS TURNOVER TO SNOW. THE COLD FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...USHERING IN THE COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON. RAIN WILL BEGIN TO FREEZE ON ELEVATED SURFACES ACROSS NORTHWEST SECTIONS OF THE CWA AS EARLY AS THIS EVENING WITH FREEZING RAIN BECOMING LIKELY ACROSS PARTS OF CENTRAL MISSOURI AFTER MIDNIGHT. FREEZING LINE TO MOVE THROUGH ST. LOUIS METRO AREA AROUND 8 AM ON THURSDAY WITH THE ENTIRE CWA BELOW FREEZING BY THE LATE AFTERNOON. AS THE COLD AIR DEEPENS...THE RAIN WILL BEGIN TO MIX WITH SLEET AND EVENTUALLY TURN TO ALL SNOW BY THURSDAY EVENING. SIGNIFICANT ICE ACCUMULATIONS...ESPECIALLY ON ELEVATED SURFACES SUCH AS TREES AND POWERLINES WILL LIKELY OCCUR ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN MISSOURI AS WELL AS WEST CENTRAL ILLINOIS. ALL MODELS AGREE THAT A STRONG SHORTWAVE ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE LARGE SCALE TROF WILL INDUCE CYCLOGENESIS ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY WITH A CLASSIC DEFORMATION ZONE SETTING UP ALONG OR JUST NORTH OF THE I-44 CORRIDOR THURSDAY NIGHT. BUFKIT REVEALS ELEVATED CAPE AND THEREFORE THE CHANCE OF THUNDERSNOW. HAVE FORECASTED SNOW TOTALS UP TO 10 INCHES IN A BAND THAT LIES JUST NORTH OF I-44 IN MISSOURI AND I-70 IN ILLINOIS. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE SOME LOCATIONS RECEIVE MORE THAN A FOOT IF THUNDER OCCURS. PLAN ON EXTENDING THE WINTER STORM WATCH FOR TONIGHT TO INCLUDE CENTRAL MISSOURI...OTHERWISE WILL LET DAYSHIFT GET ONE MORE MODEL RUN UNDER THERE BELT BEFORE ISSUING WINTER STORM WARNINGS. WINTER STORM EXITS REGION FRIDAY MORNING WITH COLD TEMPERATURES LEFT IN ITS WAKE. LOOK FOR SINGLE DIGIT READINGS SATURDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER A FRESH SNOW PACK RESULTS IN FAVORABLE RADIATIONAL COOLING. CVKING && .AVIATION... FOR THE 06Z TAFS... COLD FRONT EXTENDS FROM WRN WI THRU ERN IA AND INTO NWRN MO...THEN INTO KS AS OF 04Z. HOWEVER...NAM CONTINUES TO SLOW ITS PROGRESS TO THE E...KEEPING IT WEST OF KUIN AND KCOU TIL THE AFTERNOON HOURS ON WED. WILL TIME FRONT INTO KUIN BY 22Z AND KCOU BY 23Z. FRONT SHOULD STAY JUST W OF KSUS/KSTL TIL AFTER 06Z THU. AS FOR CIGS...THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE...WITH KCOU AND KUIN CLEAR AT THE MOMENT. BUT WITH FRONT APPROACHING THE AREA...SHOULD SEE CU/SC CONT TO DEVELOP AND SPREAD EASTWARD OVERNIGHT...WITH MVFR CIG RETURNING BETWEEN 08Z AND 09Z. IN THE MEANTIME...SC HAS REMAINED OVER ERN MO WITH LOW MVFR CIGS OVER KSUS/KSTL. WILL RAISE CIGS TO HIGH MVFR DURING THE MORNING HOURS ON WED FOR THESE FORECAST SITES WITH DAYTIME HEATING. BEHIND FRONT WILL SEE CIGS DROP TO IFR AT TIMES. PCPN TO REMAIN RATHER SCATTERED IN NATURE TIL MIDDAY ON WED...WITH CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY PICKING UP AHEAD OF COLD FRONT...WITH BEST CHANCES OF TRWS FOR SITES ALONG I-70 CORRIDOR...KCOU BY 20Z AND KSUS/KSTL BY 22Z. BYRD && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-GASCONADE-IRON-JEFFERSON- LINCOLN-MADISON-MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-REYNOLDS-ST. CHARLES- ST. FRANCOIS-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-STE. GENEVIEVE-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE-CALLAWAY-COLE-MONITEAU-RALLS. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR BOND IL-CALHOUN IL-CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MARION IL-MONROE IL- MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-RANDOLPH IL-ST. CLAIR IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 291103 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 445 AM CST WED NOV 29 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL BEGIN TO AFFECT REGION TONIGHT... MODEL GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT ON LARGE SCALE FEATURES CONCERNING THE COLD FRONT AND DEVELOPING WINTER STORM SCENARIO...BUT STILL EXHIBIT SOME DIFFERENCES IN THE DETAILS. COLD FRONT CURRENTLY EXTENDS FROM NEAR PLEASANT HILL TO KIRKSVILLE WITH SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. STILL BELIEVE NAM IS BEST MODEL TO FOLLOW WHEN FOCUSING ON THERMODYNAMICS OF THE LOWEST LEVELS OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND HAVE THEREFORE FOLLOWED ITS TIMING OF THE FRONT AND FREEZING LINE ACROSS THE CWA AS WELL AS TURNOVER TO SNOW. THE COLD FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE CWA DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS...USHERING IN THE COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON. RAIN WILL BEGIN TO FREEZE ON ELEVATED SURFACES ACROSS NORTHWEST SECTIONS OF THE CWA AS EARLY AS THIS EVENING WITH FREEZING RAIN BECOMING LIKELY ACROSS PARTS OF CENTRAL MISSOURI AFTER MIDNIGHT. FREEZING LINE TO MOVE THROUGH ST. LOUIS METRO AREA AROUND 8 AM ON THURSDAY WITH THE ENTIRE CWA BELOW FREEZING BY THE LATE AFTERNOON. AS THE COLD AIR DEEPENS...THE RAIN WILL BEGIN TO MIX WITH SLEET AND EVENTUALLY TURN TO ALL SNOW BY THURSDAY EVENING. SIGNIFICANT ICE ACCUMULATIONS...ESPECIALLY ON ELEVATED SURFACES SUCH AS TREES AND POWERLINES WILL LIKELY OCCUR ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN MISSOURI AS WELL AS WEST CENTRAL ILLINOIS. ALL MODELS AGREE THAT A STRONG SHORTWAVE ROUNDING THE BASE OF THE LARGE SCALE TROF WILL INDUCE CYCLOGENESIS ALONG THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY WITH A CLASSIC DEFORMATION ZONE SETTING UP ALONG OR JUST NORTH OF THE I-44 CORRIDOR THURSDAY NIGHT. BUFKIT REVEALS ELEVATED CAPE AND THEREFORE THE CHANCE OF THUNDERSNOW. HAVE FORECASTED SNOW TOTALS UP TO 10 INCHES IN A BAND THAT LIES JUST NORTH OF I-44 IN MISSOURI AND I-70 IN ILLINOIS. WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE SOME LOCATIONS RECEIVE MORE THAN A FOOT IF THUNDER OCCURS. PLAN ON EXTENDING THE WINTER STORM WATCH FOR TONIGHT TO INCLUDE CENTRAL MISSOURI...OTHERWISE WILL LET DAYSHIFT GET ONE MORE MODEL RUN UNDER THERE BELT BEFORE ISSUING WINTER STORM WARNINGS. WINTER STORM EXITS REGION FRIDAY MORNING WITH COLD TEMPERATURES LEFT IN ITS WAKE. LOOK FOR SINGLE DIGIT READINGS SATURDAY MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE OVER A FRESH SNOW PACK RESULTS IN FAVORABLE RADIATIONAL COOLING. CVKING && .AVIATION... FOR THE 12Z TAFS... AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT EXTENDED FROM NORTHEAST IA ACROSS WESTERN MO INTO THE TX PANHANDLE EARLY THIS MORNING...NEAR A DBQ-IRK-PNC LINE. THE FRONT WILL CONTINUE TO SAG SLOWLY SOUTHEASTWARD DURING THE PERIOD. MOST OF THE CONVECTION CONTINUED FROM WEST CENTRAL INTO NORTHEAST MO. THE SHOWERS/SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS WERE MOVING TO THE NORTHEAST. THREE HOURLY SURFACE PRESSURE CHANGE MAP INDICATED A 4 MB RISE CENTER OVER SOUTHEAST NEB. COLD FRONT WAS MOVING FASTER THAN THE PREVIOUS MODEL GUIDANCE. THE LATEST NAM GUIDANCE ON BUFKIT SOUNDINGS INDICATED THE RAIN WOULD CHANGE TO FREEZING RAIN AT UIN AROUND 09Z TONIGHT AND AT COU AROUND 10Z TONIGHT. THE 00Z RUN OF THE NAM CHANGED DROPPED THE TEMP TO FREEZING 2 TO 3 HOURS SOONER. WIDESPREAD IFR CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP BEHIND THE FRONT AS IT SLIDES ACROSS THE AREA. TPS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-GASCONADE-IRON-JEFFERSON- LINCOLN-MADISON-MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-REYNOLDS-ST. CHARLES- ST. FRANCOIS-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-STE. GENEVIEVE-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE-CALLAWAY-COLE-MONITEAU-RALLS. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR BOND IL-CALHOUN IL-CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MARION IL-MONROE IL- MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-RANDOLPH IL-ST. CLAIR IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 291822 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1222 PM CST WED NOV 29 2006 .DISCUSSION... HAVE UPDATED THE FORECAST TO REFLECT THE FRONT MOVING ACROSS SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN MODELS HAVE INDICATED. FRONT HAS ALREADY REACHED A JEFFERSON CITY-PITTSFIELD LINE...WITH TEMPERATURES QUICKLY DROPPING INTO THE MID 30S BEHIND IT. HAD A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS EARLIER...THOUGH THEY HAVE SINCE DIMINISHED. STILL HAVE THE SLIGHT RISK FOR SVR POTENTIAL AS ENVIRONMENT ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT HAS MUCAPES OF 500 J/KG WITH STRONG SHEAR...SO WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO WATCH CONVECTIVE TRENDS ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT INTO THE NIGHT. DID NOT CHANGE MUCH FOR TONIGHT OR TOMORROW AT THIS TIME. QUICKER MOVEMENT OF THE FRONT MAY REQUIRE CHANGE OVER TIMES TO BE MOVED UP BY A FEW HOURS ON NEXT FORECAST. IN THESE DEEP TROUGH/PARALLEL LOW LEVEL BOUNDARY SITUATIONS...WILL ALSO BE MONITORING LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL. CERTAINTY THAT THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT ICE ACCUMULATIONS (1/4 OR MORE) LATE TONIGHT AND TOMORROW FOLLOW BY SIGNIFICANT SNOW (OVER 6 INCHES) ACCUMULATIONS IS INCREASING...AND WATCHES WILL BE UPGRADED TO WINTER STORM WARNINGS THIS AFTERNOON. BRITT && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS... COLD FRONT HAS ALREADY MOVED THROUGH KUIN AND KCOU LATE THIS MORNING WITH A BAND OF SHRA AND SCT TSRA MOVING NEWD ALONG AND BEHIND THE FRONT. CIGS BEHIND FRONT ARE MAINLY IFR OR LIFR...SO HAVE GONE WITH THESE CIGS WITH TEMPO GROUPS FOR SHRA. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...JUST HAVE ISOLD-SCT SHRA ATTM SO HAVE ONLY GONE WITH VCNTY SHRA. HAVE FRONT MOVG THRU KSUS AND KSTL 03-04Z TIME FRAME. ALSO HAVE GONE WITH TEMPO GROUP FOR SHRA JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT THIS EVENING. FRONT HAS BEEN MOVG A BIT FASTER THAN THE MODELS HAVE INDICATED...SO HAVE MOVED THE CHANGEOVER TO FZRA AND ALSO THE CHANGEOVER TO SNPL A FEW HOURS EARLIER. BRITT && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-GASCONADE-IRON-JEFFERSON- LINCOLN-MADISON-MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-REYNOLDS-ST. CHARLES- ST. FRANCOIS-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-STE. GENEVIEVE-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM LATE TONIGHT THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE-CALLAWAY-COLE-MONITEAU-RALLS. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 PM CST THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT FOR BOND IL-CALHOUN IL-CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MARION IL-MONROE IL- MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-RANDOLPH IL-ST. CLAIR IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WATCH FROM 6 PM CST THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 292248 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 448 PM CST WED NOV 29 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL AFFECT REGION THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING... THE 12Z SHORT-TERM MODELS (THRU FRIDAY AFTERNOON)...HAVE COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT...ESPECIALLY THE NAM AND GFS...ON HANDLING OF A MAJOR WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE AREA...THE FIRST OF THE SEASON. STARTING WITH TONIGHT...THE MODELS HAVE NOT CORRECTLY ANTICIPATED THE FORWARD SPEED OF THE ARCTIC CDFNT NOW MOVING THRU OUR AREA... ROUGHLY ALONG A NEAR KSPI-THRU ST CHARLES COUNTY MO-JUST W OF KVIH-JUST SE OF KSGF. THE /WEIGHT/ OF THE CD AIR IS FORCING IT FURTHER S...EVEN WITH STRONG MID LEVEL FLOW TRYING TO TIE IT UP AHEAD OF A DEVELOPING WAVE OVER ERN OK. WENT AGGRESSIVE AND COLDER THAN MOS AND MODELS TO ACCOUNT FOR SHARP DROP IN TEMPS BEHIND FRONT...WITH KIRK ALREADY AT 30F! VAST MAJORITY OF PCPN NOW DEVELOPING ALG-BEHIND CDFNT OVER SHALLOW ARCTIC AIR IN REGION OF STRONG RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION LIFT OF H300 JET AND NOSE OF DEVELOPING H850 JET. THIS STRONG REGION OF LIFT COUPLED WITH FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING AT MID LEVELS TO GRADUALLY SHIFT FROM THE NWRN HALF OF THE FA THIS EVENING TO THE SERN HALF LATER TONIGHT. ABNORMALLY HI PWATS FOR LATE NOVEMBER AND POTENTIAL FOR TRAINING ECHOES AND THUNDER (ALREADY EXISTING OVER ERN OK THRU NERN MO)...WILL LEAD TO ENHANCED PCPN TOTALS AND HAVE MENTIONED HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL IN FORECAST. AS COLD AIR SLOWLY SEEPS INTO THE NWRN FA TONIGHT...WILL SEE RAIN CHANGE TO FZRA IN THE NWRN THIRD BY LATE TONIGHT. HEADING INTO THURSDAY...FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN WILL SHIFT TO SERN HALF OF THE FA AND THEN FADE BY AFTERNOON...ALLOWING FOR A BREAK FOR MOST AREAS AT SOME POINT FROM LATE MORNING THRU AFTERNOON. BUT NOT ENTIRELY...AS FZDZ SHOULD BE PREVALENT IN AREAS WITH SUB-FRZG SFC TEMPS. LOOK FOR 32F ISOTHERM TO PUSH THRU THE STL METRO AREA DURING LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON FROM NW-SE...AND THEN INTO THE SERN HALF OF THE FA DURING THE AFTERNOON. LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT ICING EVENT THRU THURSDAY AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY IN STRIPE FROM KVIH-KSTL-K3LF WHERE THIS AREA WILL BE SLOW TO CLEAR OUT FROM FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN...YET COLD AIR WILL UNDERCUT AS EXPECTED. FOR THURSDAY NIGHT TIL THE STORM/S CONCLUSION ON FRIDAY MORNING... MAIN HEAVY SNOW THREAT WILL BE FROM THIS SYSTEM. MODELS HAVE ALL COME INTO EXCELLENT AGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THIS STRONG IMPULSE...NOW EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED CIRCULATION BY LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON AS H500 CENTER TRACKS JUST S AND E OF KSTL LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THEN PULLS AWAY FRIDAY MORNING. H700 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE HEAVY PCPN TRACK JUST TO THE LEFT...IS VERY CLOSE TO THE H500 TRACK. H850 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE MAINTENANCE OF WARM WEDGE OF AIR ALOFT...NOT EXPECTED TO TRACK PAST OUR AREA TIL LATE THURSDAY EVENING...THEREBY EXPECTING TO KEEP MIXED WINTRY PCPN IN PLACE FOR THE STL METRO AREA TIL THIS TIME. FURTHER N AND W...WHEN PCPN RESUMES AROUND SUNSET...SHOULD FALL AS ALL SNOW ALMOST FROM THE ONSET...AND HEAVY AT TIMES. S AND E OF KSTL...PRESENCE OF 32F ISOTHERM WILL KEEP P-TYPE CALL TOUGH TO A RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES. LOOKING FOR A STRIPE OF HEAVY SNOW FROM JUST E OF KCOU-TROY-BOWLING GREEN-PITTSFIELD IL...WHERE NOT ONLY MOST IF NOT ALL PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW...BUT ALSO POTENTIAL FOR BANDED SNOW STRUCTURE AND/OR THUNDERSNOW SUPPORTING MUCH HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES. FOR NOW HAVE BUMPED UP AMOUNTS TO CLOSE TO A FOOT IN THIS AREA...TAPERING TO JUST A FEW INCHES IN SERN MO/SRN IL. AS A RESULT...ALL OF WATCH WILL BE CONVERTED TO A WARNING WITH THIS PACKAGE EXCEPT IN THE SE EXTREMITY OF THE FA...WHERE LATER ARRIVAL OF SUB FREEZING TEMPS AND PERSISTENT WARM WEDGE WILL LOWER ICE AND SNOW AMOUNTS. TES FOR PDS STARTING AT 00Z SAT...AT BEGINNING OF THIS PD...MDLS SEEM TO AGREE RATHER WELL. HOWEVER...MDLS DIVERGE BEGINNING SOON AFT. GFS IS STGR WITH SRY S/W AT 12Z TUES. GIVEN THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE GFS...AM LEANING TWD AN ECMWF SOLN FOR LOCATION...TIMING OF SYNOPTIC FEATURES. ENTR EXTD IS DRY ATTM. THEREFORE...FCST PROBLEM BCMS TEMPS. HAVE TRENDED TEMPS DOWN IN EXTD PD...ESP FOR SAT. SAT MRNG LOWS SHUD BE ALLOWED TO FALL INTO LOW TEENS WITH POSS SN PACK AND CLR SKIES. AFT SAT...TEMPS WILL NOT HAVE A CHC TO REBOUND MUCH. A STG SFC RIDGE WILL BE IN PLACE WITH GENERALLY A NLY FLOW IN PLACE. SLY FLOW MAY RETURN FOR A WHILE LATE MON BEFORE ANOTHER CDFNT MVS THRU CWA LATE TUES. CONFIDENCE IN A FROPA ON TUES IS RATHER LOW DUE TO LACK OF UPR LVL SUPPORT OF FEATURE. THINKING IS THAT CDFNT WILL STALL N OF CWA DURING THIS TIME PD...ALLOWING SOME WWA. HOWEVER...AMT OF WRMG IS UNCERTAIN GIVEN POSSIBLE CLD CVR. TILLY && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS...COLD FRONT HAS ALREADY MOVED THROUGH KUIN AND KCOU LATE THIS MORNING WITH A BAND OF SHRA AND SCT TSRA MOVING NEWD ALONG AND BEHIND THE FRONT. CIGS BEHIND FRONT ARE MAINLY IFR OR LIFR...SO HAVE GONE WITH THESE CIGS WITH TEMPO GROUPS FOR SHRA. AHEAD OF THE FRONT...JUST HAVE ISOLD-SCT SHRA ATTM SO HAVE ONLY GONE WITH VCNTY SHRA. HAVE FRONT MOVG THRU KSUS AND KSTL 03-04Z TIME FRAME. ALSO HAVE GONE WITH TEMPO GROUP FOR SHRA JUST AHEAD OF THE FRONT THIS EVENING. FRONT HAS BEEN MOVG A BIT FASTER THAN THE MODELS HAVE INDICATED...SO HAVE MOVED THE CHANGEOVER TO FZRA AND ALSO THE CHANGEOVER TO SNPL A FEW HOURS EARLIER. BRITT && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-JEFFERSON-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON-REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALLAWAY-COLE-GASCONADE-LINCOLN-MONITEAU-MONTGOMERY- OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-WARREN. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BROWN IL-PIKE IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BOND IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-ST. CLAIR IL. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 292359 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 600 PM CST WED NOV 29 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL AFFECT REGION THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING... THE 12Z SHORT-TERM MODELS (THRU FRIDAY AFTERNOON)...HAVE COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT...ESPECIALLY THE NAM AND GFS...ON HANDLING OF A MAJOR WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE AREA...THE FIRST OF THE SEASON. STARTING WITH TONIGHT...THE MODELS HAVE NOT CORRECTLY ANTICIPATED THE FORWARD SPEED OF THE ARCTIC CDFNT NOW MOVING THRU OUR AREA... ROUGHLY ALONG A NEAR KSPI-THRU ST CHARLES COUNTY MO-JUST W OF KVIH-JUST SE OF KSGF. THE /WEIGHT/ OF THE CD AIR IS FORCING IT FURTHER S...EVEN WITH STRONG MID LEVEL FLOW TRYING TO TIE IT UP AHEAD OF A DEVELOPING WAVE OVER ERN OK. WENT AGGRESSIVE AND COLDER THAN MOS AND MODELS TO ACCOUNT FOR SHARP DROP IN TEMPS BEHIND FRONT...WITH KIRK ALREADY AT 30F! VAST MAJORITY OF PCPN NOW DEVELOPING ALG-BEHIND CDFNT OVER SHALLOW ARCTIC AIR IN REGION OF STRONG RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION LIFT OF H300 JET AND NOSE OF DEVELOPING H850 JET. THIS STRONG REGION OF LIFT COUPLED WITH FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING AT MID LEVELS TO GRADUALLY SHIFT FROM THE NWRN HALF OF THE FA THIS EVENING TO THE SERN HALF LATER TONIGHT. ABNORMALLY HI PWATS FOR LATE NOVEMBER AND POTENTIAL FOR TRAINING ECHOES AND THUNDER (ALREADY EXISTING OVER ERN OK THRU NERN MO)...WILL LEAD TO ENHANCED PCPN TOTALS AND HAVE MENTIONED HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL IN FORECAST. AS COLD AIR SLOWLY SEEPS INTO THE NWRN FA TONIGHT...WILL SEE RAIN CHANGE TO FZRA IN THE NWRN THIRD BY LATE TONIGHT. HEADING INTO THURSDAY...FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN WILL SHIFT TO SERN HALF OF THE FA AND THEN FADE BY AFTERNOON...ALLOWING FOR A BREAK FOR MOST AREAS AT SOME POINT FROM LATE MORNING THRU AFTERNOON. BUT NOT ENTIRELY...AS FZDZ SHOULD BE PREVALENT IN AREAS WITH SUB-FRZG SFC TEMPS. LOOK FOR 32F ISOTHERM TO PUSH THRU THE STL METRO AREA DURING LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON FROM NW-SE...AND THEN INTO THE SERN HALF OF THE FA DURING THE AFTERNOON. LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT ICING EVENT THRU THURSDAY AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY IN STRIPE FROM KVIH-KSTL-K3LF WHERE THIS AREA WILL BE SLOW TO CLEAR OUT FROM FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN...YET COLD AIR WILL UNDERCUT AS EXPECTED. FOR THURSDAY NIGHT TIL THE STORM/S CONCLUSION ON FRIDAY MORNING... MAIN HEAVY SNOW THREAT WILL BE FROM THIS SYSTEM. MODELS HAVE ALL COME INTO EXCELLENT AGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THIS STRONG IMPULSE...NOW EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED CIRCULATION BY LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON AS H500 CENTER TRACKS JUST S AND E OF KSTL LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THEN PULLS AWAY FRIDAY MORNING. H700 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE HEAVY PCPN TRACK JUST TO THE LEFT...IS VERY CLOSE TO THE H500 TRACK. H850 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE MAINTENANCE OF WARM WEDGE OF AIR ALOFT...NOT EXPECTED TO TRACK PAST OUR AREA TIL LATE THURSDAY EVENING...THEREBY EXPECTING TO KEEP MIXED WINTRY PCPN IN PLACE FOR THE STL METRO AREA TIL THIS TIME. FURTHER N AND W...WHEN PCPN RESUMES AROUND SUNSET...SHOULD FALL AS ALL SNOW ALMOST FROM THE ONSET...AND HEAVY AT TIMES. S AND E OF KSTL...PRESENCE OF 32F ISOTHERM WILL KEEP P-TYPE CALL TOUGH TO A RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES. LOOKING FOR A STRIPE OF HEAVY SNOW FROM JUST E OF KCOU-TROY-BOWLING GREEN-PITTSFIELD IL...WHERE NOT ONLY MOST IF NOT ALL PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW...BUT ALSO POTENTIAL FOR BANDED SNOW STRUCTURE AND/OR THUNDERSNOW SUPPORTING MUCH HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES. FOR NOW HAVE BUMPED UP AMOUNTS TO CLOSE TO A FOOT IN THIS AREA...TAPERING TO JUST A FEW INCHES IN SERN MO/SRN IL. AS A RESULT...ALL OF WATCH WILL BE CONVERTED TO A WARNING WITH THIS PACKAGE EXCEPT IN THE SE EXTREMITY OF THE FA...WHERE LATER ARRIVAL OF SUB FREEZING TEMPS AND PERSISTENT WARM WEDGE WILL LOWER ICE AND SNOW AMOUNTS. TES FOR PDS STARTING AT 00Z SAT...AT BEGINNING OF THIS PD...MDLS SEEM TO AGREE RATHER WELL. HOWEVER...MDLS DIVERGE BEGINNING SOON AFT. GFS IS STGR WITH SRY S/W AT 12Z TUES. GIVEN THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE GFS...AM LEANING TWD AN ECMWF SOLN FOR LOCATION...TIMING OF SYNOPTIC FEATURES. ENTR EXTD IS DRY ATTM. THEREFORE...FCST PROBLEM BCMS TEMPS. HAVE TRENDED TEMPS DOWN IN EXTD PD...ESP FOR SAT. SAT MRNG LOWS SHUD BE ALLOWED TO FALL INTO LOW TEENS WITH POSS SN PACK AND CLR SKIES. AFT SAT...TEMPS WILL NOT HAVE A CHC TO REBOUND MUCH. A STG SFC RIDGE WILL BE IN PLACE WITH GENERALLY A NLY FLOW IN PLACE. SLY FLOW MAY RETURN FOR A WHILE LATE MON BEFORE ANOTHER CDFNT MVS THRU CWA LATE TUES. CONFIDENCE IN A FROPA ON TUES IS RATHER LOW DUE TO LACK OF UPR LVL SUPPORT OF FEATURE. THINKING IS THAT CDFNT WILL STALL N OF CWA DURING THIS TIME PD...ALLOWING SOME WWA. HOWEVER...AMT OF WRMG IS UNCERTAIN GIVEN POSSIBLE CLD CVR. TILLY && .AVIATION... FOR THE 00Z TAFS...COLD FRONT HAS ALREADY MOVED THROUGH KUIN AND KCOU AND SHOULD MOVE THRU KSUS/KSTL BY 02Z. STILL HAVE VFR/MVFR CIGS AHEAD OF FRONT...WHILE CIGS BEHIND FRONT ARE MAINLY IFR OR LIFR. AS FOR PCPN AND TYPE...WILL HAVE RA/TRWS FOR KUIN/KCOU FOR A FEW HOURS THIS EVENING...THEN SWITCH OVER TO FZRA BY 05Z...THEN BY 10Z WILL SEE FZRA CHANGE OVER TO A MIX OF PL AND SN...BEFORE TAPERING OFF TO FZDZ BETWEEN 14Z AND 16Z AS INITIAL SHORTWAVE EXITS REGION. SNOW TO PICK BACK UP AGAIN FOR KUIN/KCOU BY MID TO LATE AFTERNOON. IN THE MEANTIME...KSUS/KSTL TO REMAIN LIQUID TIL ABOUT 16Z THU...WITH SOME TRW ACTIVITY FOR A FEW HOURS BETWEEN 04Z AND 07Z. AFT 16Z...SHOULD SEE PCPN CHANGE OVER TO FZRA BEFORE TAPERING OFF TO FZDZ BY 19Z. NEXT WAVE OF ACTIVITY NOT TO AFFECT THESE TWO SITES TIL AFTER THE CURRENT FORECAST PERIOD. WINDS TO REMAIN QUITE BLUSTERY FROM THE N AROUND 15KTS WITH GUSTS TO 25KTS AT TIMES. BYRD && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-JEFFERSON-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON-REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALLAWAY-COLE-GASCONADE-LINCOLN-MONITEAU-MONTGOMERY- OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-WARREN. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BROWN IL-PIKE IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BOND IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-ST. CLAIR IL. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 300541 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1142 PM CST WED NOV 29 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL AFFECT REGION THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING... THE 12Z SHORT-TERM MODELS (THRU FRIDAY AFTERNOON)...HAVE COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT...ESPECIALLY THE NAM AND GFS...ON HANDLING OF A MAJOR WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE AREA...THE FIRST OF THE SEASON. STARTING WITH TONIGHT...THE MODELS HAVE NOT CORRECTLY ANTICIPATED THE FORWARD SPEED OF THE ARCTIC CDFNT NOW MOVING THRU OUR AREA... ROUGHLY ALONG A NEAR KSPI-THRU ST CHARLES COUNTY MO-JUST W OF KVIH-JUST SE OF KSGF. THE /WEIGHT/ OF THE CD AIR IS FORCING IT FURTHER S...EVEN WITH STRONG MID LEVEL FLOW TRYING TO TIE IT UP AHEAD OF A DEVELOPING WAVE OVER ERN OK. WENT AGGRESSIVE AND COLDER THAN MOS AND MODELS TO ACCOUNT FOR SHARP DROP IN TEMPS BEHIND FRONT...WITH KIRK ALREADY AT 30F! VAST MAJORITY OF PCPN NOW DEVELOPING ALG-BEHIND CDFNT OVER SHALLOW ARCTIC AIR IN REGION OF STRONG RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION LIFT OF H300 JET AND NOSE OF DEVELOPING H850 JET. THIS STRONG REGION OF LIFT COUPLED WITH FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING AT MID LEVELS TO GRADUALLY SHIFT FROM THE NWRN HALF OF THE FA THIS EVENING TO THE SERN HALF LATER TONIGHT. ABNORMALLY HI PWATS FOR LATE NOVEMBER AND POTENTIAL FOR TRAINING ECHOES AND THUNDER (ALREADY EXISTING OVER ERN OK THRU NERN MO)...WILL LEAD TO ENHANCED PCPN TOTALS AND HAVE MENTIONED HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL IN FORECAST. AS COLD AIR SLOWLY SEEPS INTO THE NWRN FA TONIGHT...WILL SEE RAIN CHANGE TO FZRA IN THE NWRN THIRD BY LATE TONIGHT. HEADING INTO THURSDAY...FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN WILL SHIFT TO SERN HALF OF THE FA AND THEN FADE BY AFTERNOON...ALLOWING FOR A BREAK FOR MOST AREAS AT SOME POINT FROM LATE MORNING THRU AFTERNOON. BUT NOT ENTIRELY...AS FZDZ SHOULD BE PREVALENT IN AREAS WITH SUB-FRZG SFC TEMPS. LOOK FOR 32F ISOTHERM TO PUSH THRU THE STL METRO AREA DURING LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON FROM NW-SE...AND THEN INTO THE SERN HALF OF THE FA DURING THE AFTERNOON. LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT ICING EVENT THRU THURSDAY AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY IN STRIPE FROM KVIH-KSTL-K3LF WHERE THIS AREA WILL BE SLOW TO CLEAR OUT FROM FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN...YET COLD AIR WILL UNDERCUT AS EXPECTED. FOR THURSDAY NIGHT TIL THE STORM/S CONCLUSION ON FRIDAY MORNING... MAIN HEAVY SNOW THREAT WILL BE FROM THIS SYSTEM. MODELS HAVE ALL COME INTO EXCELLENT AGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THIS STRONG IMPULSE...NOW EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED CIRCULATION BY LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON AS H500 CENTER TRACKS JUST S AND E OF KSTL LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THEN PULLS AWAY FRIDAY MORNING. H700 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE HEAVY PCPN TRACK JUST TO THE LEFT...IS VERY CLOSE TO THE H500 TRACK. H850 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE MAINTENANCE OF WARM WEDGE OF AIR ALOFT...NOT EXPECTED TO TRACK PAST OUR AREA TIL LATE THURSDAY EVENING...THEREBY EXPECTING TO KEEP MIXED WINTRY PCPN IN PLACE FOR THE STL METRO AREA TIL THIS TIME. FURTHER N AND W...WHEN PCPN RESUMES AROUND SUNSET...SHOULD FALL AS ALL SNOW ALMOST FROM THE ONSET...AND HEAVY AT TIMES. S AND E OF KSTL...PRESENCE OF 32F ISOTHERM WILL KEEP P-TYPE CALL TOUGH TO A RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES. LOOKING FOR A STRIPE OF HEAVY SNOW FROM JUST E OF KCOU-TROY-BOWLING GREEN-PITTSFIELD IL...WHERE NOT ONLY MOST IF NOT ALL PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW...BUT ALSO POTENTIAL FOR BANDED SNOW STRUCTURE AND/OR THUNDERSNOW SUPPORTING MUCH HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES. FOR NOW HAVE BUMPED UP AMOUNTS TO CLOSE TO A FOOT IN THIS AREA...TAPERING TO JUST A FEW INCHES IN SERN MO/SRN IL. AS A RESULT...ALL OF WATCH WILL BE CONVERTED TO A WARNING WITH THIS PACKAGE EXCEPT IN THE SE EXTREMITY OF THE FA...WHERE LATER ARRIVAL OF SUB FREEZING TEMPS AND PERSISTENT WARM WEDGE WILL LOWER ICE AND SNOW AMOUNTS. TES FOR PDS STARTING AT 00Z SAT...AT BEGINNING OF THIS PD...MDLS SEEM TO AGREE RATHER WELL. HOWEVER...MDLS DIVERGE BEGINNING SOON AFT. GFS IS STGR WITH SRY S/W AT 12Z TUES. GIVEN THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE GFS...AM LEANING TWD AN ECMWF SOLN FOR LOCATION...TIMING OF SYNOPTIC FEATURES. ENTR EXTD IS DRY ATTM. THEREFORE...FCST PROBLEM BCMS TEMPS. HAVE TRENDED TEMPS DOWN IN EXTD PD...ESP FOR SAT. SAT MRNG LOWS SHUD BE ALLOWED TO FALL INTO LOW TEENS WITH POSS SN PACK AND CLR SKIES. AFT SAT...TEMPS WILL NOT HAVE A CHC TO REBOUND MUCH. A STG SFC RIDGE WILL BE IN PLACE WITH GENERALLY A NLY FLOW IN PLACE. SLY FLOW MAY RETURN FOR A WHILE LATE MON BEFORE ANOTHER CDFNT MVS THRU CWA LATE TUES. CONFIDENCE IN A FROPA ON TUES IS RATHER LOW DUE TO LACK OF UPR LVL SUPPORT OF FEATURE. THINKING IS THAT CDFNT WILL STALL N OF CWA DURING THIS TIME PD...ALLOWING SOME WWA. HOWEVER...AMT OF WRMG IS UNCERTAIN GIVEN POSSIBLE CLD CVR. TILLY && .AVIATION... FOR THE 06Z TAFS...COLD FRONT HAS MOVED THROUGH ALL TAF SITES AS OF 05Z. SO CIGS BEHIND FRONT ARE MAINLY IFR OR LIFR. AS FOR PCPN...KUIN AND KCOU HAVE FALLEN BELOW FREEZING WITH FZRA PERSISTING OVER THE AREA. SHOULD SEE IT BECOME MIXED WITH SLEET BY MID MORNING...THEN CHANGE OVER TO SNOW BY 21Z FOR KUIN AND 02Z FOR KCOU. IN THE MEANTIME...SFC TEMPS TO REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING TIL 19Z FOR KSUS/KSTL. BY 19Z...LOW LEVEL COLD AIR TO FINALLY MOVE INTO THE AREA CHANGING PCPN TO FZRA. WILL EVENTUALLY SEE IT CHANGE TO SNOW AT KSUS/KSTL...BUT AFTER THE END OF THE CURRENT FORECAST PERIOD. WINDS TO REMAIN QUITE BLUSTERY FROM THE N AROUND 15KTS WITH GUSTS TO 25KTS AT TIMES. BYRD && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-JEFFERSON-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON-REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALLAWAY-COLE-GASCONADE-LINCOLN-MONITEAU-MONTGOMERY- OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-WARREN. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BROWN IL-PIKE IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BOND IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-ST. CLAIR IL. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 301037 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 445 AM CST THU NOV 30 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...MAJOR WINTER STORM WILL AFFECT REGION THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING... THE 12Z SHORT-TERM MODELS (THRU FRIDAY AFTERNOON)...HAVE COME INTO BETTER AGREEMENT...ESPECIALLY THE NAM AND GFS...ON HANDLING OF A MAJOR WINTER STORM TO AFFECT THE AREA...THE FIRST OF THE SEASON. STARTING WITH TONIGHT...THE MODELS HAVE NOT CORRECTLY ANTICIPATED THE FORWARD SPEED OF THE ARCTIC CDFNT NOW MOVING THRU OUR AREA... ROUGHLY ALONG A NEAR KSPI-THRU ST CHARLES COUNTY MO-JUST W OF KVIH-JUST SE OF KSGF. THE /WEIGHT/ OF THE CD AIR IS FORCING IT FURTHER S...EVEN WITH STRONG MID LEVEL FLOW TRYING TO TIE IT UP AHEAD OF A DEVELOPING WAVE OVER ERN OK. WENT AGGRESSIVE AND COLDER THAN MOS AND MODELS TO ACCOUNT FOR SHARP DROP IN TEMPS BEHIND FRONT...WITH KIRK ALREADY AT 30F! VAST MAJORITY OF PCPN NOW DEVELOPING ALG-BEHIND CDFNT OVER SHALLOW ARCTIC AIR IN REGION OF STRONG RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION LIFT OF H300 JET AND NOSE OF DEVELOPING H850 JET. THIS STRONG REGION OF LIFT COUPLED WITH FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING AT MID LEVELS TO GRADUALLY SHIFT FROM THE NWRN HALF OF THE FA THIS EVENING TO THE SERN HALF LATER TONIGHT. ABNORMALLY HI PWATS FOR LATE NOVEMBER AND POTENTIAL FOR TRAINING ECHOES AND THUNDER (ALREADY EXISTING OVER ERN OK THRU NERN MO)...WILL LEAD TO ENHANCED PCPN TOTALS AND HAVE MENTIONED HEAVY RAINFALL POTENTIAL IN FORECAST. AS COLD AIR SLOWLY SEEPS INTO THE NWRN FA TONIGHT...WILL SEE RAIN CHANGE TO FZRA IN THE NWRN THIRD BY LATE TONIGHT. HEADING INTO THURSDAY...FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN WILL SHIFT TO SERN HALF OF THE FA AND THEN FADE BY AFTERNOON...ALLOWING FOR A BREAK FOR MOST AREAS AT SOME POINT FROM LATE MORNING THRU AFTERNOON. BUT NOT ENTIRELY...AS FZDZ SHOULD BE PREVALENT IN AREAS WITH SUB-FRZG SFC TEMPS. LOOK FOR 32F ISOTHERM TO PUSH THRU THE STL METRO AREA DURING LATE MORNING AND EARLY AFTERNOON FROM NW-SE...AND THEN INTO THE SERN HALF OF THE FA DURING THE AFTERNOON. LOOKING AT SIGNIFICANT ICING EVENT THRU THURSDAY AFTERNOON...ESPECIALLY IN STRIPE FROM KVIH-KSTL-K3LF WHERE THIS AREA WILL BE SLOW TO CLEAR OUT FROM FRONTOGENETICAL PCPN...YET COLD AIR WILL UNDERCUT AS EXPECTED. FOR THURSDAY NIGHT TIL THE STORM/S CONCLUSION ON FRIDAY MORNING... MAIN HEAVY SNOW THREAT WILL BE FROM THIS SYSTEM. MODELS HAVE ALL COME INTO EXCELLENT AGREEMENT ON THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THIS STRONG IMPULSE...NOW EXPECTED TO FORM A CLOSED CIRCULATION BY LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON AS H500 CENTER TRACKS JUST S AND E OF KSTL LATE THURSDAY NIGHT THEN PULLS AWAY FRIDAY MORNING. H700 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE HEAVY PCPN TRACK JUST TO THE LEFT...IS VERY CLOSE TO THE H500 TRACK. H850 LO...WHICH HELPS TO DETERMINE MAINTENANCE OF WARM WEDGE OF AIR ALOFT...NOT EXPECTED TO TRACK PAST OUR AREA TIL LATE THURSDAY EVENING...THEREBY EXPECTING TO KEEP MIXED WINTRY PCPN IN PLACE FOR THE STL METRO AREA TIL THIS TIME. FURTHER N AND W...WHEN PCPN RESUMES AROUND SUNSET...SHOULD FALL AS ALL SNOW ALMOST FROM THE ONSET...AND HEAVY AT TIMES. S AND E OF KSTL...PRESENCE OF 32F ISOTHERM WILL KEEP P-TYPE CALL TOUGH TO A RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES. LOOKING FOR A STRIPE OF HEAVY SNOW FROM JUST E OF KCOU-TROY-BOWLING GREEN-PITTSFIELD IL...WHERE NOT ONLY MOST IF NOT ALL PCPN WILL FALL AS SNOW...BUT ALSO POTENTIAL FOR BANDED SNOW STRUCTURE AND/OR THUNDERSNOW SUPPORTING MUCH HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES. FOR NOW HAVE BUMPED UP AMOUNTS TO CLOSE TO A FOOT IN THIS AREA...TAPERING TO JUST A FEW INCHES IN SERN MO/SRN IL. AS A RESULT...ALL OF WATCH WILL BE CONVERTED TO A WARNING WITH THIS PACKAGE EXCEPT IN THE SE EXTREMITY OF THE FA...WHERE LATER ARRIVAL OF SUB FREEZING TEMPS AND PERSISTENT WARM WEDGE WILL LOWER ICE AND SNOW AMOUNTS. TES FOR PDS STARTING AT 00Z SAT...AT BEGINNING OF THIS PD...MDLS SEEM TO AGREE RATHER WELL. HOWEVER...MDLS DIVERGE BEGINNING SOON AFT. GFS IS STGR WITH SRY S/W AT 12Z TUES. GIVEN THE INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE GFS...AM LEANING TWD AN ECMWF SOLN FOR LOCATION...TIMING OF SYNOPTIC FEATURES. ENTR EXTD IS DRY ATTM. THEREFORE...FCST PROBLEM BCMS TEMPS. HAVE TRENDED TEMPS DOWN IN EXTD PD...ESP FOR SAT. SAT MRNG LOWS SHUD BE ALLOWED TO FALL INTO LOW TEENS WITH POSS SN PACK AND CLR SKIES. AFT SAT...TEMPS WILL NOT HAVE A CHC TO REBOUND MUCH. A STG SFC RIDGE WILL BE IN PLACE WITH GENERALLY A NLY FLOW IN PLACE. SLY FLOW MAY RETURN FOR A WHILE LATE MON BEFORE ANOTHER CDFNT MVS THRU CWA LATE TUES. CONFIDENCE IN A FROPA ON TUES IS RATHER LOW DUE TO LACK OF UPR LVL SUPPORT OF FEATURE. THINKING IS THAT CDFNT WILL STALL N OF CWA DURING THIS TIME PD...ALLOWING SOME WWA. HOWEVER...AMT OF WRMG IS UNCERTAIN GIVEN POSSIBLE CLD CVR. TILLY && .AVIATION... FOR THE 12Z TAFS... ARCTIC AIR CONTINUED TO SLIDE INTO THE AREA FROM THE NORTHWEST EARLY THIS MORNING. FREEZING RAIN CONTINED FROM CENTRAL INTO NORTHEAST MO WITH RAIN ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE REGION. RADAR INDICATED THE EDGE OF THE PRECIPITATION FROM JUST WEST OF COU TO NEAR UIN. TEMPS ACROSS THE STL METRO AREA ARE EXPECTED TO SLOWLY DROP DURING THE MORNING. EXPECT THE TEMP TO REACH THE FREEZING MARK AROUND 16Z WITH THE FREEZING RAIN BECOMING MIXED WITH SLEET BY LATE AFTERNOON. EXPECT A MIXTURE OF FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET IN COU AND UIN MUCH OF THE DAY. BUFKIT SOUNDING FORECAST OFF THE NAM COOLS THE ATMOSPHERE DOWN AFTER MIDNIGHT AT COU AND UIN TO CHANGE THE PRECIPITATION TO SNOW. TPS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-JEFFERSON-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON-REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALLAWAY-COLE-GASCONADE-LINCOLN-MONITEAU-MONTGOMERY- OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-WARREN. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- KNOX-LEWIS-MARION-MONROE-SHELBY. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 6 AM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BROWN IL-PIKE IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM 12 PM THURSDAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BOND IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-ST. CLAIR IL. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 301120 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 520 AM CST THU NOV 30 2006 .DISCUSSION... THE FIRST WINTER STORM OF THE SEASON WILL BE IMPACTING THE BI- STATE REGION TODAT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING. THE ARCTIC FRONT HAS JUST PUSHED SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA ATTM WITH TEMPERATURES CONTINUING TO FALL BEHIND IT CHANGING THE RAIN TO MAINLY FREEZING RAIN NORTH AND WEST OF THE ST LOUIS METRO AREA. THE COLD AIR IS ADVANCING FASTER SOUTHEASTWARD THAN THE MODELS HAD FCST. THE PRECIPITATION HAS RECENTLY TAPERED OFF OVER THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE CWA WELL BEHIND THE ARCTIC COLD FRONT. THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD PICK UP AGAIN LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING AS THE MID-UPR LVL LOW CURRENTLY OVR SERN NM MOVES NORTHEAST THROUGH OK THIS AFTN AND EVNG TO JUST S OF STL BY 12Z FRI. THE ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL MOVE NEWD THRU AR THIS AFTN AND EVNG TO JUST E OF STL BY 12Z FRI. THE HEAVIEST SNOW SHOULD OCCUR TGT OVR THE NRN AND WRN PTN OF THE CWA LEFT OF THE TRACK OF THE MID LVL LOW AND ASSOCIATED 850 MB LOW. IT APRS THAT THE DEFORMATION ZONE WILL SET UP OVR THE NRN PTN OF THE CWA LT TGT INTO FRI MRNG WITH A TOTAL OF NR ONE FOOT OF SNOW ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE. FURTHER S AND E INCLUDING THE STL METRO AREA ICE ACCUMULATION WILL BE THE MAIN CONCERN TODAY AND THIS EVENING AS THE STG SLY LLJ AHD OF THE 850 MB LOW BRINGS VRY STG WAA AND ABUNDANT MOISTURE OVR THE COLD BLW FREEZING SFC LYR RESULTING IN FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET ACCUMULATION. THE FCST SOUNDINGS DEPICT THIS ELEVATED WRM LYR OVR THE SUBFREEZING SFC LYR WHICH SHOULD RESULT IN ICE ACCUMULATION INITIALLY ON ELEVATED SFCS...TREES AND POWER LINES THEN EVENTUALLY ON THE GROUND AND ROAD SFC AS THE SFC AND GROUND TEMPERATURE CONTS TO LWR. STG WNDS TDA AND TGT WILL ONLY AGGREVATE THE SITUATION LEADING TO BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW TGT INTO FRI ESPECIALLY N AND W OF STL...AND ALSO POSSIBLY LEADING TO DOWNED TREES AND POWER LINES DUE TO THE COMBINATION OF THE WEIGHT OF THE ICE ACCUMULATION AND THE STRONG WIND GUSTS. THE SNOW SHOULD COME TO AN END BY FRI AFTN ALTHOUGH THE COLD CONDITIONS WILLL CONT THRU THE WEEKEND. PLAN TO FCST BLW GUIDANCE TEMPERATURES DUE TO THE SNOW CVR EXPECTED OVR MUCH OF THE CWA. GKS && .AVIATION... FOR THE 12Z TAFS... ARCTIC AIR CONTINUED TO SLIDE INTO THE AREA FROM THE NORTHWEST EARLY THIS MORNING. FREEZING RAIN CONTINED FROM CENTRAL INTO NORTHEAST MO WITH RAIN ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE REGION. RADAR INDICATED THE EDGE OF THE PRECIPITATION FROM JUST WEST OF COU TO NEAR UIN. TEMPS ACROSS THE STL METRO AREA ARE EXPECTED TO SLOWLY DROP DURING THE MORNING. EXPECT THE TEMP TO REACH THE FREEZING MARK AROUND 16Z WITH THE FREEZING RAIN BECOMING MIXED WITH SLEET BY LATE AFTERNOON. EXPECT A MIXTURE OF FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET IN COU AND UIN MUCH OF THE DAY. BUFKIT SOUNDING FORECAST OFF THE NAM COOLS THE ATMOSPHERE DOWN AFTER MIDNIGHT AT COU AND UIN TO CHANGE THE PRECIPITATION TO SNOW. TPS && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN- JEFFERSON-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON-REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- CALLAWAY-COLE-GASCONADE-KNOX-LEWIS-LINCOLN-MARION-MONITEAU- MONROE-MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-SHELBY-WARREN. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM NOON TODAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL- PIKE IL. WINTER STORM WARNING FROM NOON TODAY TO 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BOND IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-ST. CLAIR IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 301733 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1133 AM CST THU NOV 30 2006 .DISCUSSION... THE FIRST WINTER STORM OF THE SEASON WILL BE IMPACTING THE BI- STATE REGION TODAT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING. THE ARCTIC FRONT HAS JUST PUSHED SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA ATTM WITH TEMPERATURES CONTINUING TO FALL BEHIND IT CHANGING THE RAIN TO MAINLY FREEZING RAIN NORTH AND WEST OF THE ST LOUIS METRO AREA. THE COLD AIR IS ADVANCING FASTER SOUTHEASTWARD THAN THE MODELS HAD FCST. THE PRECIPITATION HAS RECENTLY TAPERED OFF OVER THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE CWA WELL BEHIND THE ARCTIC COLD FRONT. THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD PICK UP AGAIN LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING AS THE MID-UPR LVL LOW CURRENTLY OVR SERN NM MOVES NORTHEAST THROUGH OK THIS AFTN AND EVNG TO JUST S OF STL BY 12Z FRI. THE ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL MOVE NEWD THRU AR THIS AFTN AND EVNG TO JUST E OF STL BY 12Z FRI. THE HEAVIEST SNOW SHOULD OCCUR TGT OVR THE NRN AND WRN PTN OF THE CWA LEFT OF THE TRACK OF THE MID LVL LOW AND ASSOCIATED 850 MB LOW. IT APRS THAT THE DEFORMATION ZONE WILL SET UP OVR THE NRN PTN OF THE CWA LT TGT INTO FRI MRNG WITH A TOTAL OF NR ONE FOOT OF SNOW ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE. FURTHER S AND E INCLUDING THE STL METRO AREA ICE ACCUMULATION WILL BE THE MAIN CONCERN TODAY AND THIS EVENING AS THE STG SLY LLJ AHD OF THE 850 MB LOW BRINGS VRY STG WAA AND ABUNDANT MOISTURE OVR THE COLD BLW FREEZING SFC LYR RESULTING IN FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET ACCUMULATION. THE FCST SOUNDINGS DEPICT THIS ELEVATED WRM LYR OVR THE SUBFREEZING SFC LYR WHICH SHOULD RESULT IN ICE ACCUMULATION INITIALLY ON ELEVATED SFCS...TREES AND POWER LINES THEN EVENTUALLY ON THE GROUND AND ROAD SFC AS THE SFC AND GROUND TEMPERATURE CONTS TO LWR. STG WNDS TDA AND TGT WILL ONLY AGGREVATE THE SITUATION LEADING TO BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW TGT INTO FRI ESPECIALLY N AND W OF STL...AND ALSO POSSIBLY LEADING TO DOWNED TREES AND POWER LINES DUE TO THE COMBINATION OF THE WEIGHT OF THE ICE ACCUMULATION AND THE STRONG WIND GUSTS. THE SNOW SHOULD COME TO AN END BY FRI AFTN ALTHOUGH THE COLD CONDITIONS WILLL CONT THRU THE WEEKEND. PLAN TO FCST BLW GUIDANCE TEMPERATURES DUE TO THE SNOW CVR EXPECTED OVR MUCH OF THE CWA. GKS && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS... NOT TOO MUCH CHANGE IN THINKING FROM PREVIOUS ISSUANCE OF TAFS. THERE HAS BEEN A SOLID BAND OF PRECIPITATION THIS MORNING EXTENDING FROM CNTRL IL...THROUGH E CNTRL MO SWWD INTO S CNTRL MO. KSTL/KSUS HAS SEEN STEADY -FZRAPL FROM THIS BAND ALL MORNING... COMPARED TO KUIN/KCOU WHERE IT HAS BEEN MAINLY PRECIP FREE. WITH NO REAL CHANGE IN THE M0VEMENT OF THE BAND...HAVE PREDOMINANT -FZRAPL WITH MVRF/TEMPO IFR CONDITIONS GOING HERE THROUGH THE EVENING. AT KCOU/KUIN...THINK THERE WILL ONLY BE SOME PATCHY -FRDZSN (FLURRIES) THROUGH MID AFTN BEFORE MEASUREABLE FZRAPL RETURNS BY LATE AFTN. MAIN STORM SYSTEM WILL LIFT OUT OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THIS EVENING...DRAMATICALLY INCREASING FORCING AND RESULTING PRECIPITATION OVER THE AREA. HAVE FZRA CHANGING OVER TO PLSN FOR A SHORT TIME THIS EVENING AT KCOU/KUIN BEFORE CHANGING OVER TO MDT TO HVY SNOW WITH VLIFR CIGS/VBYS FOR 6+ HOURS LATE THIS EVENING/ OVERNIGHT. FEELING CONTINUES TO BE THAT CNTRL AND NERN MO/W CNTRL IL WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW TONIGHT WITH SOME AREAS EXCEEDING 1 FOOT. FARTHER TO THE SE...THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ENOUGH WARM AIR ALOFT TO KEEP PRECIPITATION MAINLY FZRAPL WELL INTO THE EVENING...WITH A CHANGE OVER LATER TONIGHT. KSTL/KSUS WILL SIT ALONG SHARP LINE BETWEEN THE HEAVIEST SNOW BAND AND RELATIVELY LIGHT AMOUNTS OF SNOW/BUT MORE ICE ACCUMULATION. SYSTEM MOVES OUT QUICKLY TOMORROW MORNING...SO HAVE SHOWN A RAPID IMPROVEMENT IN THE TAFS. BRITT && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- CALLAWAY-COLE-CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-GASCONADE-JEFFERSON-KNOX- LEWIS-LINCOLN-MARION-MONITEAU-MONROE-MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE- RALLS-SHELBY-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON- REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL-BROWN IL- CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-PIKE IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL- FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR BOND IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-ST. CLAIR IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 301841 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 1241 PM CST THU NOV 30 2006 .UPDATE... FIRST THRUST OF THE WINTER STORM HAS BEEN IMPACTING THE REGION THIS MORNING WITH PRIMARILY FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET. THE COMBO HAS RESULTED IN ICE ACCUMLATIONS OF AROUND ONE HALF INCH ALONG A LINE FROM OWENSVILLE TO TROY TO CARROLLTON. THE FREEZING LINE AT MIDDAY RUNS FROM NORTHERN REYNOLDS COUNTY THROUGH ST CLAIR COUNTY TO NORTHERN FAYETTE COUNTY. SUB-FREEZING AIR CONTINUES TO SPREAD SOUTHWARD AND SHOULD OVERSPREAD THE REMAINDER OF SE MO AND SW IL BY LATE AFTERNOON OR VERY EARLY EVENING. THE AWAITED DEFORMATION ZONE HAS RAPIDLY DEVELOPED FROM OK INTO ERN KS OVER THE LAST FEW HRS AS THE UPR SYSTEM MOVES INTO THE SRN PLAINS. MEAINWHILE AXIS OF PRECIPITATION FROM SOUTHERN MISSOURI THROUGH STL INTO CENTRAL ILLINOIS WILL HOLD STEADY. EXPECTING THE VOID IN PCPN CURRENTLY ACRS CNTRL AND WRN MO WILL FILL-IN AS THE AFTERNOON PROGRESSES IN ASSOCN WITH LARGE SCALE ASCENT IN ADVANCE OF THE MID/UPR SYS. PTYPE QUESTIONS STILL LURK. FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET SHOULD BE PREDOMINATE THROUGH EARLY EVENING. WE ARE FAVORING THE COLDER RUC AND GFS...EXPECTING A CHANGEOVER TO SNOW ACROSS CENTRAL AND NE MO/WC IL DURING THE EVENING...AND WELL AFTER MIDNIGHT IN FAR ECNTRL MO/STL AREA. POTENTIAL IS HIGH FOR HEAVY BANDED SNOWFALL WITH RATES OF 2-3 IN/HR FROM CENTRAL MO INTO WCNTRL IL. CURRENT THINKING IS A BAND OF 12+ INCHES FROM NORTHERN BOONE COUNTY TO NEAR OR JUST SOUTH OF UIN. THE GFS SHOWS POSITIVE CAPE...SO AMOUNTS OF 18+ ARE CERTAINLY NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION GIVEN POTENTIAL FOR BANDING AND THUNDER ALONG THE AFOREMENTIONED AXIS. THERE WILL BE A SHARP SEWD GRADIENT TO THE SNOW WITH AS MUCH AS 6-7 INCHES POSSIBLE IN FAR NW SECTIONS OF THE STL METRO TAPERING TO AN INCH OR SO IN FAR SE SXNS. OF MORE CONCERN ALONG THE I-44 CORRIDOR IS THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY SLEET AND ICE/FREEZING RAIN ACCUMULATIONS...WITH AN ADDITIONAL ONE INCH OF ICE MUCK QUITE LIKELY. THIS ZONE IS LIKELY TO SEE ANOTHER 12-15H OF SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN BEFORE CHANGING TO ALL SNOW. GLASS && .DISCUSSION... THE FIRST WINTER STORM OF THE SEASON WILL BE IMPACTING THE BI- STATE REGION TODAT THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING. THE ARCTIC FRONT HAS JUST PUSHED SOUTHEAST OF THE CWA ATTM WITH TEMPERATURES CONTINUING TO FALL BEHIND IT CHANGING THE RAIN TO MAINLY FREEZING RAIN NORTH AND WEST OF THE ST LOUIS METRO AREA. THE COLD AIR IS ADVANCING FASTER SOUTHEASTWARD THAN THE MODELS HAD FCST. THE PRECIPITATION HAS RECENTLY TAPERED OFF OVER THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE CWA WELL BEHIND THE ARCTIC COLD FRONT. THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD PICK UP AGAIN LATE THIS AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING AS THE MID-UPR LVL LOW CURRENTLY OVR SERN NM MOVES NORTHEAST THROUGH OK THIS AFTN AND EVNG TO JUST S OF STL BY 12Z FRI. THE ASSOCIATED SFC LOW WILL MOVE NEWD THRU AR THIS AFTN AND EVNG TO JUST E OF STL BY 12Z FRI. THE HEAVIEST SNOW SHOULD OCCUR TGT OVR THE NRN AND WRN PTN OF THE CWA LEFT OF THE TRACK OF THE MID LVL LOW AND ASSOCIATED 850 MB LOW. IT APRS THAT THE DEFORMATION ZONE WILL SET UP OVR THE NRN PTN OF THE CWA LT TGT INTO FRI MRNG WITH A TOTAL OF NR ONE FOOT OF SNOW ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE. FURTHER S AND E INCLUDING THE STL METRO AREA ICE ACCUMULATION WILL BE THE MAIN CONCERN TODAY AND THIS EVENING AS THE STG SLY LLJ AHD OF THE 850 MB LOW BRINGS VRY STG WAA AND ABUNDANT MOISTURE OVR THE COLD BLW FREEZING SFC LYR RESULTING IN FREEZING RAIN AND SLEET ACCUMULATION. THE FCST SOUNDINGS DEPICT THIS ELEVATED WRM LYR OVR THE SUBFREEZING SFC LYR WHICH SHOULD RESULT IN ICE ACCUMULATION INITIALLY ON ELEVATED SFCS...TREES AND POWER LINES THEN EVENTUALLY ON THE GROUND AND ROAD SFC AS THE SFC AND GROUND TEMPERATURE CONTS TO LWR. STG WNDS TDA AND TGT WILL ONLY AGGREVATE THE SITUATION LEADING TO BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW TGT INTO FRI ESPECIALLY N AND W OF STL...AND ALSO POSSIBLY LEADING TO DOWNED TREES AND POWER LINES DUE TO THE COMBINATION OF THE WEIGHT OF THE ICE ACCUMULATION AND THE STRONG WIND GUSTS. THE SNOW SHOULD COME TO AN END BY FRI AFTN ALTHOUGH THE COLD CONDITIONS WILLL CONT THRU THE WEEKEND. PLAN TO FCST BLW GUIDANCE TEMPERATURES DUE TO THE SNOW CVR EXPECTED OVR MUCH OF THE CWA. GKS && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS... NOT TOO MUCH CHANGE IN THINKING FROM PREVIOUS ISSUANCE OF TAFS. THERE HAS BEEN A SOLID BAND OF PRECIPITATION THIS MORNING EXTENDING FROM CNTRL IL...THROUGH E CNTRL MO SWWD INTO S CNTRL MO. KSTL/KSUS HAS SEEN STEADY -FZRAPL FROM THIS BAND ALL MORNING... COMPARED TO KUIN/KCOU WHERE IT HAS BEEN MAINLY PRECIP FREE. WITH NO REAL CHANGE IN THE M0VEMENT OF THE BAND...HAVE PREDOMINANT -FZRAPL WITH MVRF/TEMPO IFR CONDITIONS GOING HERE THROUGH THE EVENING. AT KCOU/KUIN...THINK THERE WILL ONLY BE SOME PATCHY -FRDZSN (FLURRIES) THROUGH MID AFTN BEFORE MEASUREABLE FZRAPL RETURNS BY LATE AFTN. MAIN STORM SYSTEM WILL LIFT OUT OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THIS EVENING...DRAMATICALLY INCREASING FORCING AND RESULTING PRECIPITATION OVER THE AREA. HAVE FZRA CHANGING OVER TO PLSN FOR A SHORT TIME THIS EVENING AT KCOU/KUIN BEFORE CHANGING OVER TO MDT TO HVY SNOW WITH VLIFR CIGS/VBYS FOR 6+ HOURS LATE THIS EVENING/ OVERNIGHT. FEELING CONTINUES TO BE THAT CNTRL AND NERN MO/W CNTRL IL WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW TONIGHT WITH SOME AREAS EXCEEDING 1 FOOT. FARTHER TO THE SE...THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ENOUGH WARM AIR ALOFT TO KEEP PRECIPITATION MAINLY FZRAPL WELL INTO THE EVENING...WITH A CHANGE OVER LATER TONIGHT. KSTL/KSUS WILL SIT ALONG SHARP LINE BETWEEN THE HEAVIEST SNOW BAND AND RELATIVELY LIGHT AMOUNTS OF SNOW/BUT MORE ICE ACCUMULATION. SYSTEM MOVES OUT QUICKLY TOMORROW MORNING...SO HAVE SHOWN A RAPID IMPROVEMENT IN THE TAFS. BRITT && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- CALLAWAY-COLE-CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-GASCONADE-JEFFERSON-KNOX- LEWIS-LINCOLN-MARION-MONITEAU-MONROE-MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE- RALLS-SHELBY-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON- REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL-BOND IL- BROWN IL-CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-ST. CLAIR IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL- FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 302136 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 336 PM CST THU NOV 30 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE THIS EVENING... ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY AREA BEING UPGRADED TO WARNING... MAIN UNCERTAINTY DEALS WITH THIS PACKAGE DEALS WITH HOW MUCH SNOW ACCUMULATION VS. SLEET/GLAZE (ICE FROM FREEZING RAIN (FZRA)) ACCUMULATION THERE WILL BE OVER THE CNTRL PART OF THE CWA. WILL CONTINUE TO FAVOR THE COOLER SOUNDINGS OF THE RUC/GFS AS PRECPITATION TYPE ALL DAY HAVE BEEN MORE SLEET THAN THE ALL FZRA SOUNDINGS THE NAM HAS BEEN FORECASTING. THERE IS A BAND OF MDT TO HVY PRECIPITATION EXTENDING FROM E CNTRL AND CNTRL MO SWWD THROUGH THE 0ZARKS INTO WRN AR ATTM. THIS BAND WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD NEWD THIS EVENING INTO CNTRL IL. THIS MEANS THAT THE SAME AREA WILL SEE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF MDT-HVY SLEET WITH SOME FREEZING RAIN AND SNOW WELL INTO THE EVENING... RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION OF SLEET/GLAZE. CHANGEOVER TO ALL SNOW WILL PROBABLY TAKE A WHILE AS GFS SOUNDINGS HAVE A RELATIVELY WARM LAYER THROUGH LATE EVENING. THINK THERE WILL BE A SHARP TRADE OFF BETWEEN JUST SNOW VS. A MIX OF SNOW/SLEET/FZRA ON THE ERN EDGE OF THE DEFORMATION ZONE. THINKING IS THAT SLEET/GLAZE TOTALS WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE JUST SNOW TOTALS OVR ERN STL METRO AREA WITH ONLY 2-4 INCHES...WHEREAS THE WRN METRO COUNTIES WILL SEE QUITE A BIT OF SLEET WITH 6+ INCHES OF SNOW ON TOP OF IT. FARTHER NW OVER CNTRL AND NERN MO/W CNTRL IL...THIS MIX WILL SWITCH OVER BY MID EVENING AS THE DEFORMATION ZONE NOW OVER WRN MO/ERN KS/OK LIFTS NEWD WITH THE MAIN STORM SYSTEM. SOUNDINGS WILL QUICKLY CHANGE TO ALL SNOW. ALL OF THE NECESSARY SYNOPTIC AND MESOSCALE FORCING WILL SET UP TO PRODUCE A BAND OF VERY HEAVY SNOWFALL OVER THIS AREA...WITH 10-14 INCH AMOUNTS EXPECTED BY THE TIME THE SYSTEM LIFTS OUT TOMORROW MORNING. HAVE UPGRADED THE ADVISORY TO A WARNING OVER THE FAR SRN AND ERN COUNTIES AS THE TEMPERATURE WILL CONTINUE TO DROP. ONCE THE PRECIPITATION CHANGED OVER...SHOULD SEE FZRA/SLEET TONIGHT INTO EARLY TOMORROW...WITH SOME MINOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ON TOP OF IT AS THE DEFORMATION ZONE LIFTS NEWD. OTHERWISE...WENT COLDER ON GUIDANCE TEMPS AS THEY ARE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FRESH SNOW COVER. REST OF FORECAST IS DRY WITH A GRADUAL MODERATING OF TEMPERATURES AS NO SIGNIFICANT SYSTEMS ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT THE AREA UNTIL LATE NEXT WEEK. BRITT/BYRD/GLASS && .AVIATION... FOR THE 18Z TAFS... NOT TOO MUCH CHANGE IN THINKING FROM PREVIOUS ISSUANCE OF TAFS. THERE HAS BEEN A SOLID BAND OF PRECIPITATION THIS MORNING EXTENDING FROM CNTRL IL...THROUGH E CNTRL MO SWWD INTO S CNTRL MO. KSTL/KSUS HAS SEEN STEADY -FZRAPL FROM THIS BAND ALL MORNING... COMPARED TO KUIN/KCOU WHERE IT HAS BEEN MAINLY PRECIP FREE. WITH NO REAL CHANGE IN THE M0VEMENT OF THE BAND...HAVE PREDOMINANT -FZRAPL WITH MVRF/TEMPO IFR CONDITIONS GOING HERE THROUGH THE EVENING. AT KCOU/KUIN...THINK THERE WILL ONLY BE SOME PATCHY -FRDZSN (FLURRIES) THROUGH MID AFTN BEFORE MEASUREABLE FZRAPL RETURNS BY LATE AFTN. MAIN STORM SYSTEM WILL LIFT OUT OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS THIS EVENING...DRAMATICALLY INCREASING FORCING AND RESULTING PRECIPITATION OVER THE AREA. HAVE FZRA CHANGING OVER TO PLSN FOR A SHORT TIME THIS EVENING AT KCOU/KUIN BEFORE CHANGING OVER TO MDT TO HVY SNOW WITH VLIFR CIGS/VBYS FOR 6+ HOURS LATE THIS EVENING/ OVERNIGHT. FEELING CONTINUES TO BE THAT CNTRL AND NERN MO/W CNTRL IL WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW TONIGHT WITH SOME AREAS EXCEEDING 1 FOOT. FARTHER TO THE SE...THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ENOUGH WARM AIR ALOFT TO KEEP PRECIPITATION MAINLY FZRAPL WELL INTO THE EVENING...WITH A CHANGE OVER LATER TONIGHT. KSTL/KSUS WILL SIT ALONG SHARP LINE BETWEEN THE HEAVIEST SNOW BAND AND RELATIVELY LIGHT AMOUNTS OF SNOW/BUT MORE ICE ACCUMULATION. SYSTEM MOVES OUT QUICKLY TOMORROW MORNING...SO HAVE SHOWN A RAPID IMPROVEMENT IN THE TAFS. BRITT && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- CALLAWAY-COLE-CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-GASCONADE-JEFFERSON-KNOX- LEWIS-LINCOLN-MARION-MONITEAU-MONROE-MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE- RALLS-SHELBY-ST. CHARLES-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-WARREN- WASHINGTON. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR IRON-MADISON- REYNOLDS-ST. FRANCOIS-STE. GENEVIEVE. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL-BOND IL- BROWN IL-CALHOUN IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL-PIKE IL-ST. CLAIR IL. WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR CLINTON IL- FAYETTE IL-MARION IL-RANDOLPH IL-WASHINGTON IL. && $$ WFO LSX FXUS63 KLSX 302324 AFDLSX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO 524 PM CST THU NOV 30 2006 .DISCUSSION... ...CONDITIONS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE THIS EVENING... ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY AREA BEING UPGRADED TO WARNING... MAIN UNCERTAINTY DEALS WITH THIS PACKAGE DEALS WITH HOW MUCH SNOW ACCUMULATION VS. SLEET/GLAZE (ICE FROM FREEZING RAIN (FZRA)) ACCUMULATION THERE WILL BE OVER THE CNTRL PART OF THE CWA. WILL CONTINUE TO FAVOR THE COOLER SOUNDINGS OF THE RUC/GFS AS PRECPITATION TYPE ALL DAY HAVE BEEN MORE SLEET THAN THE ALL FZRA SOUNDINGS THE NAM HAS BEEN FORECASTING. THERE IS A BAND OF MDT TO HVY PRECIPITATION EXTENDING FROM E CNTRL AND CNTRL MO SWWD THROUGH THE 0ZARKS INTO WRN AR ATTM. THIS BAND WILL CONTINUE TO SPREAD NEWD THIS EVENING INTO CNTRL IL. THIS MEANS THAT THE SAME AREA WILL SEE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF MDT-HVY SLEET WITH SOME FREEZING RAIN AND SNOW WELL INTO THE EVENING... RESULTING IN SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION OF SLEET/GLAZE. CHANGEOVER TO ALL SNOW WILL PROBABLY TAKE A WHILE AS GFS SOUNDINGS HAVE A RELATIVELY WARM LAYER THROUGH LATE EVENING. THINK THERE WILL BE A SHARP TRADE OFF BETWEEN JUST SNOW VS. A MIX OF SNOW/SLEET/FZRA ON THE ERN EDGE OF THE DEFORMATION ZONE. THINKING IS THAT SLEET/GLAZE TOTALS WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE JUST SNOW TOTALS OVR ERN STL METRO AREA WITH ONLY 2-4 INCHES...WHEREAS THE WRN METRO COUNTIES WILL SEE QUITE A BIT OF SLEET WITH 6+ INCHES OF SNOW ON TOP OF IT. FARTHER NW OVER CNTRL AND NERN MO/W CNTRL IL...THIS MIX WILL SWITCH OVER BY MID EVENING AS THE DEFORMATION ZONE NOW OVER WRN MO/ERN KS/OK LIFTS NEWD WITH THE MAIN STORM SYSTEM. SOUNDINGS WILL QUICKLY CHANGE TO ALL SNOW. ALL OF THE NECESSARY SYNOPTIC AND MESOSCALE FORCING WILL SET UP TO PRODUCE A BAND OF VERY HEAVY SNOWFALL OVER THIS AREA...WITH 10-14 INCH AMOUNTS EXPECTED BY THE TIME THE SYSTEM LIFTS OUT TOMORROW MORNING. HAVE UPGRADED THE ADVISORY TO A WARNING OVER THE FAR SRN AND ERN COUNTIES AS THE TEMPERATURE WILL CONTINUE TO DROP. ONCE THE PRECIPITATION CHANGED OVER...SHOULD SEE FZRA/SLEET TONIGHT INTO EARLY TOMORROW...WITH SOME MINOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS ON TOP OF IT AS THE DEFORMATION ZONE LIFTS NEWD. OTHERWISE...WENT COLDER ON GUIDANCE TEMPS AS THEY ARE NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE FRESH SNOW COVER. REST OF FORECAST IS DRY WITH A GRADUAL MODERATING OF TEMPERATURES AS NO SIGNIFICANT SYSTEMS ARE EXPECTED TO AFFECT THE AREA UNTIL LATE NEXT WEEK. BRITT/BYRD/GLASS && .AVIATION... FOR THE 00Z TAFS... NOT TOO MUCH CHANGE IN THINKING FROM PREVIOUS ISSUANCE OF TAFS. SOLID BAND OF PRECIPITATION EXTENDING FROM CNTRL IL...THROUGH E CNTRL MO SWWD INTO S CNTRL MO. KSTL/KSUS HAS SEEN STEADY -FZRAPL FROM THIS BAND ALL DAY AND NOW KCOU AND KUIN ARE STARTING TO GET IN THE ACT AS MAIN DEFORMATION ZONE SETS UP ACROSS CWA. PLSN AT KCOU/KUIN WILL CHANGE OVER TO MDT TO HVY SNOW WITH VLIFR CIGS/VBYS FOR 6+ HOURS LATE THIS EVENING/OVERNIGHT. THERE WILL CONTINUE TO BE ENOUGH WARM AIR ALOFT TO KEEP PRECIPITATION MAINLY PL WELL INTO THE EVENING...WITH A CHANGE OVER LATER TONIGHT AT KSUS AND KSTL. KSTL/KSUS WILL SIT ALONG SHARP LINE BETWEEN THE HEAVIEST SNOW BAND AND RELATIVELY LIGHT AMOUNTS OF SNOW/BUT VERY SIGNIFICANT ICE ACCUMULATION. SYSTEM MOVES OUT QUICKLY TOMORROW MORNING...SO HAVE SHOWN A RAPID IMPROVEMENT IN THE TAFS...WITH CLEARING IN THE AFTERNOON. CVKING && .LSX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MO...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR AUDRAIN-BOONE- CALLAWAY-COLE-CRAWFORD-FRANKLIN-GASCONADE-IRON-JEFFERSON- KNOX-LEWIS-LINCOLN-MADISON-MARION-MONITEAU-MONROE- MONTGOMERY-OSAGE-PIKE-RALLS-REYNOLDS-SHELBY-ST. CHARLES-ST. FRANCOIS-ST. LOUIS-ST. LOUIS CITY-STE. GENEVIEVE-WARREN- WASHINGTON. IL...WINTER STORM WARNING UNTIL 9 AM CST FRIDAY FOR ADAMS IL-BOND IL- BROWN IL-CALHOUN IL-CLINTON IL-FAYETTE IL-GREENE IL-JERSEY IL-MACOUPIN IL-MADISON IL-MARION IL-MONROE IL-MONTGOMERY IL- PIKE IL-RANDOLPH IL-ST. CLAIR IL-WASHINGTON IL. && $$ WFO LSX
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